IN WHICH OTHER DECADE DOES MARCIANO GO 49 :0?

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  1. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    I would say he MIGHT keep his 49 - 0 in any era up to his reign as champ, however whether his proneness to cuts would stand up to the continued punishment on likely cuts as number of rounds were often over the 15 Marciano normally fought, i'm not sure.

    Marcianos rough house style would fit ok in earlier eras, but of course his opponents would be 'permitted' to be rough house too, cant imagine a Jefferies or Dempsey not returning with interest any Marciano fouling.

    I think he would not succeed in eras after the reign he had, as his fouling would be penalised, his cuts would likely cause stoppages, and to be honest from Liston onwards, the opponents were generally taller and heavier, so definitely keeping his 49 - 0 record was less likely.

    I sure would pay to see Marciano vs Jefferies, i believe the claret might flow.
     
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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    It would flow in bucketful s!
     
  3. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier would have killed him.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It was a bit of good luck that he kept the 49-0 in his own era.
     
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  6. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Indeed it was, sometimes you gotta have a bit of luck, a influential manager or judges that see fights differently than the other observers:rolleyes:
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    In fantasy land? Sure.

    In a real world career context? Nah, not many at all (especially if you include the names you left off). The gap between Byrd II and Leapai, the last name fought, was 8 years. That's nearly as long as Rock's entire career. Most HW's in history weren't capable of beating highly rated contenders routinely over a long period of time without burning out or getting upset. Particularly once they got the belt.
     
  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I actually meant in place of Frazier Jack. But the thread s not about swapping fighters for another one, so my mistake. I goofed on that one.
     
  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    He probably could have achieved it in some other eras, but it would have taken a mammoth amount of careful managing and outright ducking to achieve. Brian Nielsen managed to go 49-0, notching a win over Larry Holmes on the way, so it's not impossible to achieve. Of course, the true worth of that record got exposed when he got splattered by Tyson and later by an ancient Holyfield.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He would certainly have been disq'd in Europe against Lastarza 2 and C*ckell.Havent seen the first Lowry fight but many called it a robbery ,ditto the first Lastarza fight.He fought who was around and got the verdict in each case, that's all he could do.
     
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  11. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the short answer Any & Every Era = depends WHO you fight or Not!

    also in these times of the last 30 years the Rock would have competed as a L-HW such is the nature of the changed game. He would have done exactly the same as he fellow competitors, which is Fight Down in weight as every fighter has done for years now.

    as a small (height) man, he would have come in at L-HW, many of his contemporaries around his size would have been S-MWs too, though the Rocks 'burley' build wouldn't have allowed for 168 lbs...

    but again, he might have done it in any Era, and as a L-HW in recent times too (pit him against some, see what everyone things the outcome might be), by selective match making and timing.

    that too is boxing.
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He could have come in at the end of the 40 s when Joe was still champion but way past best. Taking on the Louis that beat Walcott. Not sure how harder that would have been but I believe rock still wins. Then facing a younger Walcott and Charles? They both gave him hard taxing fights years later so you have to wonder about the outcome here. If he's successful and gets to around 1953 then retires I wonder who fills in the spaces till the end of the decade when Floyd comes along?
     
  13. jyeahfosho

    jyeahfosho mrtechnicalboxer Full Member

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    Exactly, The split nose he received vs Ezzard Charles would be f****ng terrible if it went 40 rounds, he would want to go on but the ref would have no choice. I believe he could still fight in any era tho, but would lose to ali on points and have tough fights with jack Dempsey, foreman, holyfield and tyson, apart from them I believe he could go 49- 0 in any other era
     
  14. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Completely agree with you, as quote says 'protect yourself at all times'
    A fighters gotta do what a fighters gotta do, if the fist does not get you, his elbow will be along in briefest of time followed soon by his head.
    It is only dirty fighting if you are caught, and more importantly if you are penalised for it.
    Marciano had no reason to change his style, as it worked and no significant penalty ensued.
    Anyway the The Marquess of Queensberry rules are for wimps:)
     
  15. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He was technically only active for 7 full years.

    He turned pro at 24 years of age and was on the decline by 31, fought last fight at 32, retired officially at 33.

    So we have a small window for him to run up 49 fights. In modern eras it would be impossible, even if he was willing to be that active, it would be hard to get money together, opponents, and venues....

    I say after 1960 at least, 30-0 would be a more realistic goal. Even if he is better preserved by a less grueling schedule, I cant see him being successful in his mid 30s.
     
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