In your analysis. How did SRL beat , Benitez , Duran , Hagler?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by melo9100, Aug 17, 2012.


  1. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone that has done some research on the party habits of Duran. Very Good .
    More than likely Duran was suffering stomach cramps in the second fight from rapid weight loss. Thyroid tablets were a commonly used weight loss trick at the time.
     
  2. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    He cherrypicked Duran and Hagler at the right times. Benitez didn't train.
     
  3. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't even need to come back at you with this one.Since you want to start getting nasty about it all I'll say is that is one of the most embarrassing posts I've ever read.It speaks entirely for itself.
    You genuinely know absolutely **** all about boxing.:lol:
    Incidentally,when all the fighters were at their peak,how did Tommy fare against them?
     
  4. melo9100

    melo9100 Active Member Full Member

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    Are u stupid? Didn't I say it was about how guys have been beat. Hagler , benitez , and duran have been beat in ways that I believe Floyd can Replicate. Hearns , not so much.
     
  5. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And where did I say Benitez beats Floyd?:think
    You asked how Ray beat the guys you mentioned.You were told,but you couldn't hide what you really meant.:nono
    For the record,I've always said Floyd would be a terrible style for Duran,and I haven't said that Ray would do anything other than beat Floyd,because that is my opinion,but in the tradition of immature posters,you get into name calling despite the fact you are the one showing yourself up.You're using me for your rant when I haven't even said half the things you're crying about.
    Now if you don't stop that potty mouth I'll use your nonsensical posting from the last few days (i.e "you overrate these guys because they're ATGs:lol:)All I've said is that I think Ray is better than Floyd and would have enough to beat him.You've came on humiliating yourself and you've even started on Hagler.:patsch
    You call me a dick rider without noticing the irony of your own fangirl love and complete loss of rational and credibility.
    I've tried to be civil but Im afraid I'll have to ask you to leave the sensible discussions to the adults.
     
  6. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did not beat Hagler.
     
  7. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He beat Duran and Hagler psychologically, though I still think Marvin won the fight.

    Ray might have always beaten Benitez, but maybe not. Wilfred claims he didn't train. And Ray was lucky that Benitez got cut early.

    Really, Benitez deserved a rematch, but Ray was on a march towards Duran, Hearns, etc.., What would have happened a second time is hard to say, but I think it's safe to assume that Benitez would try a bit harder.
     
  8. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spot on:yep
     
  9. melo9100

    melo9100 Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe you should read the original thread the thread isn't about Floyd vs Srl. Which I made clear. It's about somebody who made a thread about how Srl is more skilled than Floyd. And that Floyd doesn't have the skill to beat these particular guys from Ray's resume.. I then stated that if people stop over rating guys because of their "ATG" Status and actually look at their fights. Specifically the way they have been beat. They would then see how ******ed it is to say Floyd can't beat them. And I called you names because you came with the same generic bull**** you spit out in every Srl thread. I really don't know what the **** your talking about. It has nothing to do with the topic. Which is why I'm cursing you out. Everyone else responded correctly. Rather they agreed with me or disagreed. So you can save that "dick riding" legend / ATG bull**** for Ray's biography.

    And i don't. Even like Floyd. Check my past threads and my avatar. I'm just speaking the truth.
     
  10. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are guys who just win. Ray Leonard was one of those guys. I don't think that's the answer anyone wants, but I think it's a factor.

    First of all Ray Leonard had the one thing that probby off sets skills/ability/talent. That is speed and power. Keep in mind that Leonard a champion at 147 won a championship at 168 by knockout. He's also one of the smartest men to ever step inside a boxing ring.

    In his first bout with Duran which Duran got the decision. Leonard went toe to toe, and stayed step with Duran. In the second fight Leonard changd his game plan and out boxed/beat the **** out of Duran. He beat Duran into quitting by not engaging Duran in the kind of fight he wanted.

    Leonard's wins over both Benitez & Hearns came down in my opinion to Leonard's speed and power. I think it would have been more than reasonable to pick either Benitez or Hearns over Leonard leading up to those bouts

    His win over Hagler is the most intresting the rest of Leonard's wins in this diccusion are clear cut wins. This one is not. Most people who have seen the fight have it a t 7-5 for either Leonard or Hagler. What is impresive is that he won the fight after not being in the ring for almost 3 years. For those who say Leonard waited for Hagler to get old. Keep in mind that Mugabi was the kind of middleweight who could give anyone hell.
    Leonard's win over Hagler in and of its self is not all that impresive, but hen you consider that Hagler was the top middleweight of his time, and was heavely favored. It is a prety impresive win for Leonard.
    In this case Leonerd's ring smarts won him the fight. He fought in the right spots usualy at the end of the rounds whennit's easier for the judges to rember what he did in that round.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Leonard won because he had years of amateur experience, he knew how to get a W, and he had god given talent to pull it off.


    Props to the SR of our generation :happy
     
  12. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seems we have a reading comprehension problem here.The only one I said I didn't think Floyd could beat was Ray(and obviously Hagler) You seem to have missed the top two paragraphs of my first post in the thread where I clearly answered the question.If I can help you again or improve your limited boxing knowledge just give me a shout.
    Reading comes first though.One of the most essential skills and you should really get a proper grasp on it.
     
  13. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And who said he'd have no chance against Duran or Benitez? Certainly wasn't me flower.:nono
    Big fan of Duran but Floyd has a style which is perfect for giving Duran big problems.
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I think he did... but either way it was a close fight & close fights shouldn`t be classed as robberies... the way Hagler has sulked over this fight for 25 years is pathetic tbh... he even has his fans doing his crying for him (not necessarily you, I just mean in general)