INACTIVITY is KILLING the HEAVYWEIGHT division (here are the stats)

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  1. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    these are the top 30 guys according to the unofficial records website

    next to each guy is how many times they fought this year

    not only do they barley fight, when they do its wasted on garbage fightswhere their opponent has been beaten 18 times already

    2009 activity - NUMBER of FIGHTS
    Vitali- 3 times (no problem here)
    Wlad- 1
    Haye- 1
    Chagaev- 2
    Chambers- 2
    Povetkin- 2
    Valeuv- 1
    Ademek- 3
    Sam Peter- 3 fights and 1 more on 12-19 (4 total)
    Tony Thomppson- 2
    John Ruiz- 1
    JC Gomez- 1
    Alexander Dimitrenko- 1
    Vladimir Virchis- 1
    David Tua- 1
    Albert Sosnowski- 1
    Ray Austin- 2
    Chris Arreola- 3 (the laziest guy is among the busiest?)
    Fres Oquendo- 2
    James Toney - 1
    Dominick Guinn- 2
    Evander Holyfield- NONE
    Oleg Platov- 1
    Denis Boytsov- 3
    Odlanier Solis- 3
    Francesco Pianeta - 3
    Sam Sexton- 2
    Jason Estrada- 2
    Alexander Ustinov- 4
    Kevin Johnson- 2

    (not listed in top 30 but name guys )
    Kali Meehan - ZERO fights
    Hassim Rahman- ZERO fights
    Danny Williams - 2 fights
    Lamon Brewster- 2
    Andrew Golota- 1
    Oleg Mascaev- 2 fights
    Audley Harrison- 3 fights, but all on same night for Prize fighter tourney

    Shannon Briggs- 1 fight this year and 0 in 2008 and he fights the dangerous
    Marcus McGee who was 22 wins 17 losses

    Sultan Ibragimov- O fights this year and 1 in 2008
    Sergey Lyakhovich- 1 fight this year- Jeremy Bates 22-16 record :patsch
    he had 1 fight in 2008 and ZERO in 2007
     
    iceman71, Dec 16, 2009
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  2. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Congratulations on a fresh thread and not rehashing the same **** over and over again. It's nice to see an insightful post that isn't about Floyd/Pac.
     
    janeschicken, Dec 16, 2009
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  3. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    yeah thanks. it struck me when i see the threads on what big fights are gonna happened in 2010. so makes me wish i had the dec threads from 2008 because looking at 2009 there wasnt anything we really got excited about....
    because i think its wishful thinking with alot of the potential match ups for next year...i dont see haye and either klit fighting...as i predicted he is talking about ruiz now in may....so he wont fight after that until nov or dec....
    i think valeuv vs vitali will come off, because there is no one else out there for vitali unless haye ditches ruiz
     
    iceman71, Dec 16, 2009
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  4. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Reading that was depressing
     
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  5. futonrevolution

    futonrevolution Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow, it's quite something to see all those stats put together. :-( What a sorry division. When Audley has more fights in a day than you have in two years, that's just wrong.
     
    futonrevolution, Dec 16, 2009
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  6. suicide booth

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    I haven't cared about the heavy division for a long time. Haye has got me slightly interested though.
     
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  7. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    I didn't even realize Wlad has only fought once this year. For some reason I had it in my mind he's been quite active -- all the while it's been big brother doing the dirty work.
     
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  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Very true. However, Wlad gets a pass because he is usually pretty active. He did have an injury which kept him out a bit longer but that isn't a normal pattern with him.
     
    WiDDoW_MaKeR, Dec 16, 2009
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  9. AbbeyFN

    AbbeyFN Active Member Full Member

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    It is sad. I was surprised to see Wvlad up there. The K brothers are active (when they are not hurt).

    Gone are the days where guys fight every month.
     
    AbbeyFN, Dec 16, 2009
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  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Excellent thread.

    If the fighters don't fight, it's impossible for any division to reach its potential. The numbers listed are eye-opening, and confirm that.
     
    Rock0052, Dec 16, 2009
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  11. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Thats a big problem when the klits fight someone is that casual fans have no idea who they are.

    Non klit fights are hardly ever shown on HBO/Showtime anymore. The last non klit fight was Arreola and that was garbage.

    I would love to see Haye/adamek and some build up to it. Especially if Roach gets Haye.

    Or Haye v Wlad with a 24/7 and roach and steward on there to build the fight up
     
    elTerrible, Dec 16, 2009
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  12. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    Wow the heavyweight division is stacked it really does have some amazing fighters, probably the best division in boxing today.
     
    Body Head, Dec 16, 2009
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  13. myau1

    myau1 Active Member Full Member

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    Don't forget Haye! He's fought only twice since March 8, 2008! For someone who says he wants to create excitement in the division he's done little to deliver on that statement.
     
    myau1, Dec 16, 2009
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  14. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    What's even more depressing are the names on the list.
     
    lobk, Dec 16, 2009
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  15. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well Haye is partially responsible for the inactivity at the top of the division, ****ing around with both Klychko's then pulling out.
     
    Vysotsky, Dec 16, 2009
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