Including heavyweights who would be cruisers today name the all time cruiser list

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  1. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say Louis, Marciano, Dempsey, Tunney, Walcott, Charles, Patterson, etc. I'm basically talking about the great and near-great heavyweight champions between the 1920s and 1960s.
     
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  2. Action

    Action Active Member Full Member

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    Absolutely Joe Louis. He always fought at 200. What a list! Look at that top 20 all-time lineup.
     
    Action, May 6, 2008
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  3. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The thing is that nobody has mentioned is that Dempsey and Louis were better against the bigger men (non-Cruisers) than they were against the smaller men. So they may have been the best heavies who get into this weight category they may not have been the best at fighting other Cruisers.

    These two KO almost all big aggressive HWs but peak Charles, Walcott and Tunney would always give them trouble.
     
    Ezzard, May 6, 2008
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  4. godking

    godking Active Member Full Member

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    Dempsey fully bulked out would be at most 210. Tyson was more muscular then Dempsey but then again Tyson was a genetic freak.
     
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  5. Action

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    Consideration must be given to those that fought their careers at that weight, fought a number of significant fights at that weight or moved up from that weight. I don't think Billy Conn qualifies nor does Mike Tyson. Dempsey does.
     
    Action, May 6, 2008
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  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    i think you should add rocky marciano on their. Charlie goldman polished his style made in order to beat the big men. His whole style was purposely suited to dealing with the big men, while the small speedsters were his kryptonite.
     
    SuzieQ49, May 6, 2008
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  7. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, Dempsey was a tiny puncher against Willard.
     
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  8. Action

    Action Active Member Full Member

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    Try this tournament with these seeds

    1. Marciano vs 16. Quarry
    2. Louis vs 15. Foster
    3. Frazier vs 14. Moore
    4. Tunney vs 13 Jirov
    5. Dempsey vs 12. Toney
    6. Holyfield vs 11. Patterson
    7. Moorer vs 10. Spinks
    8. Charles vs 9. Byrd
     
    Action, May 6, 2008
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  9. Action

    Action Active Member Full Member

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    Seeds were adjusted somewhat to allow matches that were outside of their eras. Marciano is rated ahead of Louis simply because of the win. . Johansson, Langford, Machen, Qawi and other deserving boxers at the weight were not included to allow for a 16 man format of the top rated.
     
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