Incredible stupid gameplan by smith

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  1. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo parries the jab well, Smith should have invited pressure and used the rear uppercut with venom. Canelo's hand speed is great. He's a lower case Andy Ruiz Jr in that regard.
     
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  2. Carlton Cole

    Carlton Cole Member banned Full Member

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    It’s Amazing all the things that could not work out for you when fighting the supposed pound for pound king on 3 weeks notice hahahaha. Canelo is a clown keep his name away from serious ATG’a
     
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  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loyalty to Gallagher is what has gotten ALL of the Smith brothers losses on their records and put their careers back a few years arguably.

    Gallagher will carry on training. Where do the Smith brothers go after boxing? It's a short game, you can't afford to be taking losses and losing out on big pay days by not having proper game plans.

    If you want loyalty, get a dog.
     
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  4. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair points in that respect bro, loyalty in boxing did get C.Smith the WBSS and an undefeated record to be fair so in his case I admire his loyalty. Beefy however I recommend he questions it but is he too old for a middleweight to learn new tricks? Proper fighting Family the Smith clan no matter what is said though.
     
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  5. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loyalty is stupid in boxing.
    Boxers can't afford to be loyal. The window of time in which they can make money is too short. Go with whatever trainer and promoter can help you the most because the promoters and trainers will still have a career when you're slurring your words from CTE at age 40
     
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  6. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jab's and Uppercuts are the "in vogue" punch of the moment. If I was Smith I would have invited pressure and shot the rear uppercut with seriously bad intentions as the jab wasn't going to work vs a fighter with great parrying and head movement.
     
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  7. Shrollleftupper

    Shrollleftupper Active Member banned Full Member

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    I should have trained Callum Smith.
     
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  8. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brother you are speaking in hindsight. Loyalty to a fighter who takes you to the top is a good thing. Look at Tyson after he left Rooney for gods sake. Think about your works my friend.
     
  9. Shrollleftupper

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    In addition to the uppercut, Callum should have hooked off the jab (meaning feint the jab to invite Canelo's parry and then explode and turn the hips and body over to throw a hook) and occasionally combined said hook with a defensive pivot.
     
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  10. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah he could have paid you 2% instead of the 10% and saved money after getting KO'd.
     
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  11. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He tried a tame version of that in rounds 2-5 and 7. He couldn't get beyond the guard. My main issue with him was how willing he was to stay on the "jab" line with his feet. I was begging for him to step 1-2ft laterally to Canelo's line and shoot an uppercut with bad intentions but it never happened...
     
  12. Shrollleftupper

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    I meant feint the jab, not feint the hook
     
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  13. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks for clarifying. Although in fairness he tried both. Canelo's handspeed nullified Smith's Jab and without the ability to change levels effectively he struggled to establish distance. Nobody can take away his warrior heart though and all respect to C.Smith for taking the fight on less notice than a withdrawal from a GOVT bond.
     
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  14. MetalLicker

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    The jab does work if you have a good jab. GGG demonstrated that a good jab is very effective against Canelo.

    Smith's jab is just above average. His uppercuts were useless from long range. Should have adjusted and start throwing them on the inside when it didn't work for the first 3 rounds.

    The only way Smith could have won the fight was with volume. His biggest mistakes were staying on the ropes and allowing Canelo to tee off on him. Maybe he couldn't get away because of his slow feet, but that's more the reason to stand your ground and fight fire with fire.
     
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  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's always crouched down to his opponents level, that's who he is. He really only looks good when opponents stand off him allowing him to use his range like Groves, when guys come to him, he all too often gives up his physical advantages.

    If he didn't meet your expectations it's not that he was at fault it was that your expectations were unrealistic.