Info that shows us boxing is truly the best at punching

The point of Gregsid's post was pretty clearly an attempt to denigrate MMA fighters vis a vis boxers. Even after I showed that Bas hit as hard as their test boxer, he still attempted to put an anti-MMA slant on it.

I dont think they're less focused on power, but they are less focused on skill, because that takes longer to develop. The way I see it, through my experience training in boxing and in observing others, is that it doesnt take that long to teach someone decent basic punch mechanics, so that they can put a decent amount of their mass into their punches with decent form - at least for straight punches. It's everything else that takes much longer - to keep their guard up, to move properly, to be able to slip and block and deflect punches effectively, head movement and to bob and weave, and throw punches in combinations etc.

MMA fighters cant afford to reach their full potential in these areas, because they've also got to worry about throwing kicks, defending against kicks, defending against takedowns, learning takedowns, all of the multitude of ground attack and defence techniques. So I doubt that there's much difference in punching power between boxers and MMA fighters, but in all those other boxing skills they wont be as proficient. The data, especially for MMA fighter punching power is very limited (Just Randy and Bas from what I can tell) but it seems consistent with this hypothesis.

Roughly matches the high 700's I found elsewhere.

 

i sw another vid that sad randy stikes when he mounted u is like 5x stronger then average heavywight boxers

 

Who would have thought guys who only punch in a fight would be good at punching... :roll:

 

let me ask you this.

If you took tommy hearns and measured his punching power at welterweight. After that, you bulked tommy up to heavyweight, added more mass. And this mass was all muscle, and on his back and legs, the two most important areas for developing power. Do you believe he wouldnt hit as hard as he did at welter or just p4p he wouldnt hit as hard?

 

Just p4p. If we graphed his mass increase and his power increase, the mass increase would show a much steeper incline than his power increase. If we increased his weight by 30%, he might only see a 15% increase in power - totally made up numbers, but you get my point.

 

if you have any 200+ releasing pure shots to the chin with the floor behind his head...then of course he is goign to hit harder.

heavywieght boxer doesnt have a floor to squash his man against

 

The force hitting the surface of the guys head would be great, as the victim cannot move much to dissipate energy, sort of a hammer and anvil effect.

For the same reason it seems that "poundees" are seldom knocked out. their heads dont move as much when hit, giving less of the crucial brain shake/spin that really sends fighters into temporary oblivion.

Just an observation.

Interesting thread, guys :thumbsup

 

Wonder how much zelenoff clocks at? I don't think modern technology could measure it though. :think:

 

he is the hardest puncher ive seen since . . well ever