ingemar Johannson vs Max Schmeling

Max Schmeling

 

Max in a middle to late round. Far better all around fighter. Ingo had one thing going for him and one thing only.

 

Max Baer had a powerful right hand and not a lot else and he beat Schmeling.

While I would make Schmeling the favourite here I wouldn't write off Ingo. He could punch and Max could be KO'd, so he'd have a chance.

 

max by ko. too crafty.

 

Ingo was crafty too!

 

Max Baer had a good jaw, Ingo did not. That is one of the big differences,

 

PLUS...that set up jab which would keep people off of him early on and was better than most people think.
A good thread; could go either way, Max surely had the better overall skill package but Ingo's right hand was more powerful than anything in Max's ****nal.

 

I agree about Ingo's power. Patterson told Ron Lipton that Ingo hit him harder than Liston did. Don't get me wrong, I think Ingo was good. I wish he had trained harder, he could have been much, much better. His condition in the third Patterson fight was shameful.

 

Greetings! I've always compared Ingo to ****ey in regards to mindsets. 1) Had Ingo trained better, he could have been a force deep into the sixties. As you said look how 'blubbery' he looked in Miami in the third fight. He tried the old comeback trail but you could see his heart wasn't in it.
2) ****ey: After giving Larry a competitive fight (I might boast...AGAIN...that I bet $500 on Holmes that night)
Clearly one of THE top heavies at the time AND?...doesn't fight again for almost TWO YEARS! atsch
Clearly two guys that had some sort of Hollywood aura mentality that ruined what could have been a pair of guys whose ATG status could have been much higher.

Sidebar: This one's for you Red Cobra.

My Dad and Uncle Ray went to the Indy Fairgrounds in May of 59 to see the Patterson-London fight. Dad saw Ingo and his actress girlfriend at ringside; Ingo was taking pictures throughout the fight. An interesting thought is that, despite Floyd's taking many months off between fights after winning the Title against Archie, he defended against Ingo a mere month and a half later!
My somewhat limited $0.02 take on things. :nut

 

Ingo liked the girls, liked big meals, didn't like to train. He appeared in movies, on TV, in nightclubs. There were reports of him wanting to challenge Liston, but it never materialized. Lou Duva told me the closest Marciano ever came to making a comeback was when Ingo won the championship. Duva said he was to manage/train Rocky if that fight came off.

 

He lied

 

Thanks jowcol,....in your opinion, do you think Floyd made a mistake fighting Ingo so soon after London? Do you think he took Ingo a bit lightly? i think, on the other hand, Johansson took a leaf from Max Schmeling's play book by researching and studying Floyd's style, what with the camera and everything...

 

Of course; like Ali rushing into the FOTC, Floyd could have waited until the Fall of 59 before facing Ingo. I'm trying to understand how Ingo's dismantling of Machen in Sept.58 went so far 'under the radar' of ****ysis?
Sidebar: Of course, we wouldn't have seen that bone-crushing left hook in the rematch that left Ingo bleeding out of his ear, leg twitching, and out like a light giving Floyd the first to regain the title!

 

The people who say that Max should be favoured are right, as are the people who caution against dismissing Ingo’s chances.