Ingemar Johansson, 1958 vs Frank Bruno, 1986, who wins and why?

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ingemar Johansson, 1958 vs Frank Bruno, 1986, who wins and why? Do you think that the Bingo would affect Frank as it did Eddie Machen and Floyd Patterson? Or would Bruno walk down Ingo?
     
  2. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see Bruno stopping Ingo, the big jab and right hand busts him up, then stops him in 6.
     
  3. SheenLantern

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    Size difference is pretty big

    It usually comes down to stuff like that in pick 'em fights like this
     
  4. Stiches Yarn

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    Bruno knocks him back to sweden. However, there is a chance Ingo does the same thing and send him to the UK with his right hand.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    It's hard to say.
    Johanssson was a better boxer, more relaxed, and has a sneaky right hand. He has enough power to put Bruno into malfunction.
    But Bruno was bigger and very strong and aggressive in the early rounds and has power in both hands.
    Neither of them are iron-jawed, so anything might happen.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    I'm possibly giving Bruno too much credit lately. :lol:
     
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  7. choklab

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    I don’t think Ingo is a good opponent for Frank Bruno. To beat somebody of Ingos level he must have at least beaten comparable guys in his own career and I don’t see that he did.

    Frank beat washed up guys who lacked their previous appetite for boxing that were even slower than he was in order to fight the world champions that beat him. so I am not sure how he’s going to cope with a more lively and dangerous puncher in his prime who had the appetite to win.


    Frank beat a highly ranked but tired Looking Gerrie Coetzee which qualified Frank to meet Witherspoon.. who beat him.

    I cannot see much comparison with that version of Gerrie and Ingo. Gerrie in his prime was a decent test but this version was not that guy.

    Then Frank beat an old Joe Bugner which qualified Frank to meet Tyson. Again, the guy Frank beat here to get that fight is not comparable to Ingo. Bugner was on his third comeback, a relic of the 1970s.

    Then in order to meet Lewis, who also beat Frank, Bruno beat another South African Chump Pierre Coetzee...who in no way shape or form would be fancied to last very long against the Ingo who demolished an unbeaten Eddie Machen.

    A gift wrapped Oliver McCall, who had recently struggled with the grandfatherly Larry Holmes, did offer Frank the opportunity to win a belt. But I am not sure even McCall represented much more in the way of appetite to win than old man Bugner or Either of the South Africans retreads Frank beat.

    What I am saying here is whilst Frank had a lot of muscles, size and power against disillusioned heavyweights who were not especially up for winning a fight away from home, Frank Bruno really doesn’t have enough live wins at world level to qualify any kind of dead cert win at real championship level does he?

    maybe he does? I certainly need a lot of convincing.
     
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  8. swagdelfadeel

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    Ingo was greater and probably better, but Bruno is a terrible match-up for him.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I need convincing.
     
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  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not wasting my time. :lol:
     
  11. choklab

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    I’m not sure there is any evidence Frank was mobile or quick thinking enough to beat that kind of fighter.
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's actually a decent point. Bruno was not a natural fighter by any means. On the other hand, who has Ingo beaten who remotely resembles Bruno? Bruno has a MUCH better jab, is stronger, bigger, and more powerful.
     
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  13. choklab

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    This is true. Frank has a big jab is very strong at beating up guys like those South Africans and Joe Bugner who were not terribly interested in being a World champion again but against actual world level guys who wanted to win Frank has no proof that these tools even worked at that level.

    Ingo flattened a lot of big guys. Hein ten Hoff was rather a big chap. And Ingo beat world level guys who wanted to win like Machen and Patterson. Prime fighters.
     
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  14. Richard M Murrieta

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    Was not Eddie Machen undefeated and no. 1 contender on Sept 14 1958, when he ran into the Ingo Bingo?
     
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  15. swagdelfadeel

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    Hoff was, unranked, washed up, and in his last fight and was 3-3 in his last 6. Machen and Patterson were both very different fighters than Bruno. So I have no idea why you bought either three up.