Ingemar Johansson, 1958 vs Frank Bruno, 1986, who wins and why?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Actually no .. his best efforts were rebounding to KO Witherspoon in one round , KOing from world champ Mike Weaver in one round along with a courageous fight against Holmes and KOing Bruno .. so he koed three former heavyweight champs and gave an all time great, Holmes, a hell of a fight ... not bad.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Spitting Image Annual, included a cardboard model of Bruno, with his head torso and limbs as separate parts.

    The explanation was:

    "Oh dear, Frank Bruno seems to have been dismantled by Mike Tyson. Please reassemble the champion, in time for his next great defeat!"

    That is how the British public saw Bruno!

    They did not spend a lot of time, arguing over whether he would have beaten Johansen!
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Bruno was useless but I still give him a decent chance againt Johansson, if only because I consider Johansson's chin somewhat suspect too.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We need some Smith and Witherspoon threads.

    They would pose equally interesting problems!
     
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  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Mostly because Ingo was essentially KO'ed by the legendary Brian London in his last fight .. literally carried to his corner at the bell ..
     
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good post mate. Just remember Coetzee had chronic hand surgery in 76 and didn't look back. Also doctors assured him that the surgery after the Dokes bout would not affect his right hand power.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No-one said optimum. The point is either going right over your head or you don't want to concede it.
     
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  8. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Being happy means having less. Full Member

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    I’ma tell Bruno you have talked mad shiz about him for years and he’s gonna give you a stern look (In a zoom call provided you answer) that will make your spine fold in half you wretched old man!
     
  9. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Being happy means having less. Full Member

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    25 times? Jesus I barely made it through the first viewing!
     
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  10. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Being happy means having less. Full Member

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    Jan, your mental gymnastics are excellent three points! But being overweight (Not obese) and in optimal condition are sometimes one in the same. sometimes a fighter performs better with excess weight. Others are not so much the same every human is unique. You can still be in “Good” condition whilst overweight as Thomas pointed out, no one said it was optimal.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    I'm not surpised.
     
  12. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Being happy means having less. Full Member

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    Yeah, I don’t have time to watch a mediocre fight 25 times I’d much rather watch actual good boxing.
     
  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And for all that, he gave both Tyson and Lewis a better fight, than Ingo (and Patterson for that matter much as it pains me to say) would ever muster.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  15. Kamikaze

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    :yaay