1) Because this thread brings up 59 again and again and again like Liston couldn´t pull off anything in 58. 2) Because if he ever got near Patterson in like August 58 (Patterson vs Harris) he´s the champ. 3) & 4) You could either take Berbick, Tucker or Thomas, or some poor fodder for young George too, it doesn´t matter. A Liston calibre fighter, even a younger one, is in the position to be favored against a fellow who´s one of the quickest victims of Floyd Patterson twice. Jackson (two times), Rademacher, Harris, Lodon all went longer with him. Because of the reasons mentioned earlier, and I think swag is correct on what he wrote, I won´t bait into another "discussion" with you.