Ingemar Johansson vs Sonny Liston 1959

Patterson turns his back to Ingo and walks back to his corner. I think at that moment it was over.
Machen couldn't recover from it either.

 

I never bought the notion that a frightened Patterson froze against Liston. All fighters are human and thus they know fear. Patterson simply could not endure Sonny's punches. Watching the films you can see him wilt under a couple of body punches. In the first fight he clearly is stunned by a Liston right uppercut. And then Liston moves him to the ropes and holds Floyd's head with his right glove while hammering him with two lethal lefts. Had Floyd felt no fear entering the ring the outcome wouldn't have been different. Sonny was too strong and hit too hard for Floyd. I remember listening to that fight on the radio (I'm that old). In Floyd's brief post-fight interview he said something curious. He said Liston was "too fast".

 

He bingo'd Liz? Where did you read that?

 

Machen did not run. He moved. He wrestled. And he fought with one hand the entire 12 rounds.

 

Foreman didn't fight Liston. They only sparred.

 

The question is.. Would Sonny actually Dare Step in to the ring with the Hammer of Thor tho??!



Lol. Liston by ko before 4 rounds for me.

 

A few comments about Ingo: Beautiful right hand, no doubt about that. Lazy fighter. Trained on ***** and creamy desserts. Lacked the ability to throw effective combinations.

 

I’ve read it a few times - but do I believe it? I would say it likely untrue but have no evidence otherwise to say either way. Liz did later marry one Larry Fortensky, dare I say, with tongue in cheek, ‘nuff said?

 

But that’s the point, if Ingo’s right was as acutely lethal as some believe, it should’ve been over shortly thereafter with Floyd glued to the canvas - Sonny kept him there, Ingo didn’t.

 

But the films show Williams landing titanic shots - I’ve never read anyone imply that they can’t see that - be it on boxing forums or comments on You Tube.

Williams was jabbing very well and punching fast overall.

The majority response I read is “How did Liston survive that?”

 

Who knew? 99.99999999999999999999% of the boxing world had no clue and had simply been goaded and hoodwinked into the position of know nothing. McGrain is going to have to redo his entire list now that we know having a significantly better resume than someone need not see them ahead by much, or perhaps not even at all on a resume based list. Oh the possibilities.

 

You haven't seen much at all given you are still posting and arguing. The thread was over long ago but two people just don't seem to know it. Greg put on an absolute clinic.

 

It’s a little bit different, isn’t it? One is a single punch and the other is a combination of punches. Liston threw better combos. In the first fight against Liston, Floyd managed to stay up with help of the ropes. That gave liston the chance to land a few extra bombs on an already dazed Patterson. Second fight it was also a number of bombs that took Patterson down.
Patterson was so shaken by Ingo’s right that he couldn’t even stay up for numerous punches to land. Thats my take on it.

 

But in most instances it is pretty clear which was ”the” wicked punch someone survived. Which was the punch it is such a miracle that Liston survived? Maybe i’m the only one that can’t see it. Please enlighten me.

 

Top man. Deserves legendary status for that alone.