Ingemar Johansson vs Sonny Liston 1959

So nobody is going to specify the legendary Cleveland Williams bomb that Liston took without blinking? It is not a myth, is it?

 

I see you do like your rhetorical questions.

Ingo landed more than his fair share during several periods while Floyd was upright.

The first KD wasn’t just the hammer, it was a left/right. Ingo had landed the right a few times in the preceding rounds.

Ingo also had an absolute free shot on Floyd after the first KD - he took that and also hit Floyd in the back of the head for the 2nd KD.

If you watch carefully and take on all details, you will also see that Floyd wasn’t so shaken as to not be able to fight back amid his 7 trips to the canvas - and for one of those trips Ingo himself more or less pushed Floyd to the canvas.

Liston did not throw any greater volume than Ingo or necessarily more startling combos. Patterson’s bob and weave in fact made Liston miss a few shots in the very early going.

As soon as Sonny connected with his first really solid punch to badly shake Floyd, it was a one way ticket to demise shortly thereafter - it didn’t take many punches to achieve it.

For Liston: Two fights. Two KOs. Two actual 10 counts. Total fight time; 4 mins 16 seconds.

That’s nearly a whole 2 mins shy of a mere 2 rounds - and it was that much less time again than it took Ingo to only stop Floyd in the ONE fight, after 7 KDs.

 

Maybe people aren’t bothered given that the answer to your question is SO obvious.

I know I’m not bothered to for that very reason.

In addition, references have already been made in this thread to several, specific power punches landed by Williams during those fights.

As opposed to anyone else, it seems that you’re the only one who is Mything all this. Bazinga!

 

There is this article that mentions it - among a few other “conquests” including the much hotter (imo) Stella Stevens.

The oft repeated Taylor claims might be sourced from the one person, not sure, but it’s also mentioned in Ingo’s BIO I believe.

This is a good read at any rate: -

https://jamesedyrn.wordpress.com/2017/04/09/the-women-of-ingemar-johansson/

 

That he does.

 

I would but you wouldn't address me directly because you're a coward. You'd make a post clearly about me without quoting me, and praying I don't see it.

You're a pathetic joke, just like your previous rendition Bah Lance.

 

I guess Liston was lying when he said the following "I went out to feel him out in the first round and he almost knocked me out. I thought he had cut my throat" Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/54153015/daily-news-post/

Liston's nose also bloodied and broke itself to I suppose.

 

Yep, Sonny pulled a FIGHT CLUB on himself.

The 3 Rules of Fight Club - Ignore the overwhelming evidence of the steel in Liston’s chin (repeat 3 times).

 

The funniest thing is, these clowns don't realize by degrading Liston's chin and suggesting Williams didn't land any significant punches, they're by extension crediting Liston's defense. Able to evade punches from a fast handed powerful fighter, or at least parry them to the point where they're not even hurtful, speaks volumes as to his defense. Seems like we've been underrating Liston all along.

 

Know this is an old comment but this has to be one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen "What Liston did to Patterson was unique in boxing history but too unique so we're not gonna give him any credit for that ."

Be ****ing for real.

Let me see if I have this right. Foreman's domination over Frazier in '73 to take the title was unprecedented, but nobody had ever taken out an undefeated champion in that manner, so let's throw that out.

My God a horrible post.

 

I think you are knocking on the wrong door of the wrong street again. Frazier v Foreman was not a double non performance by Frazier with a duel outcome. The post was saying because the “duel outcome” of Liston v Floyd was so unprecedented it reflected worse on what the loser brought to the table. A double non performance. It wasn’t saying “throw out all double wins”. I think it’s saying take that for what it was and look at everything else. And I didn’t write the post anyway.

 

Patterson's subsequent performances after being wiped out twice inside a round against Liston,reflect excellently on Floyd imo.
Wins over;
Machen
Chuvalo
Cooper
Bonavena
A draw with Quarry
A highly controversial loss to Ellis
Nine years of further competition during which he was Ring ranked in the top ten for seven of them,and this was in the 60's and 70's, deep eras for heavyweights.
Twenty two further fights during which he only lost four of them to Ali x 2 , Quarry,and that hotly disputed decision loss to Ellis
That said, that praiseworthy late resume must of course also reflect excellently on the man who demolished the prime version of him twice inside the initial round, in a total of five minutes including the counts.

Nobody else did it.
Haters have to hate I suppose, and your long held antipathy towards Liston and Williams is public knowledge.
It would actually do you more credit if you did not attempt to dress it up with the blatant spin that invariably accompanies your content,ingenuously protesting that your motives are agenda free and that you are entirely innocent of any bias ,when it is patently obvious the opposite is the case.
It is no accident you have the reputation among posters that you do, you have worked assiduously to earn it ,and it is well deserved.

 

I can’t think what you are implying here. Same can be said of Machen after Ingo wiped him out. It reflects excellently on Ingo. It reflects excellently that Ingo was the first to knockout Patterson too.

 

You sure seem bothered about everything else though so I take it you really don't feel comfortable answering it.

 

Because you are going on about me being some other poster. I think that it is pretty pointless trying to prove something to such a person.

Now can you say which punch it was or are you not comfortable posting anything other than articles to prove your point?