Ingemar Johansson vs Sonny Liston

Maybe I'm wrong, can't find anything confirming it as of now.

 

Nor I, Liston would beat the **** out of Ingo.

 

No I don’t think it would be possible for joe to ever take the kinds the blows he took from Foreman. I do however think at another part of his career he might not have taken so many so early or taken them quite as flush as he did in Kingston.

 

He did take those blows though... and got back to his feet each time.

 

Sadly I think this to be the case. By the way welcome back. Been a while

 

I think that Ingo tags Sonny Liston early with the Ingo Bingo, Liston blinks and backs off. Then Sonny ties him up, survives the round. Then in round 2, Liston puts out his pole like left jab into the face of Johansson, who has trouble catching Sonny again, who connects with his big left hook. Ingo stumbles back as Liston connects with another hook, Ingo falls to the canvas unable to beat the referees ten count in round 2.

 

This sounds quite feasible. Either way, Ingo is going down hard. Liston would have steamrolled him.

 

Joe did do that, and I believe the guy who beat Ali would have stopped George in 8 or 9...though I also believe he'd certainly suffer a knockdown, I see George giving way after the 4th round and getting beaten badly by the time the ref stops it.

 

Not sure about all that, but I will say this: A prime Frazier vs Foreman is not the foregone conclusion many think it is. If Frazier could avoid the most accurate of all time heavyweight's punches he could certainly avoid Foreman's slower and less accurate punches. Whether he could avoid enough of them, is a different matter entirely.

 

Liston wins this by early KO. Liston took the best Cleveland Williams had to offer and shrugged them off. I doubt Johansson would be able to hurt Liston.

 

Ingo may do better than Patterson but worse than Williams.

 

He might do better than both. He might do worse. We can never know.

I guess most people thought Machen would do better against Ingo than he did..

 

Yes I needed a break ,nice to be back in contact with you again Mr M.

 

One round ko's where a fighter is often caught cold do not overly convince me of the superiorty of one fighter over another.For example Dokes v Weaver, many thought the draw in the rematch was harsh on Weaver ..Sheppard v Maxim ,Maxim beat Sheppard twice by dec got kod in 1 rd in their 3rd bout , and easily outboxed him for a u dec in the 4th fight.I'd not be surprised if Machen had won the projected rematch with Ingo that the Swede ran out on.

 

Neither did I.