Ingemar Johansson was not knocked out cold by Brian London

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Marciano Frazier, Jun 17, 2007.


  1. Dr Z

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    Never saw this one before. Good find.
     
  2. Senya13

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    They seemed to have fun back then with such ratings (although their readers diidn't think so, in the feedback column), this one, the worst champions of all times, etc.
     
  3. Luigi1985

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    What a shitty list, now some of you posters here should know gradually why I don“t respect the "The Ring Magazine", zero knowledge and totally biased...
     
  4. Senya13

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    I could possibly scan the whole article, but that won't change nobody's opinion, so I won't even bother.
     
  5. Dr Z

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    It could change opinions. The more data and information you have, the better an opinion can be.
     
  6. Senya13

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    To say the truth, I think those 'ratings' are silly anyway. Why spread silly knowledge like that. :) There are more interesting things in the Ring. Like we could have posted here monthly ratings from the issues we have. I have about a hundred Ring magazines myself, half of them from 1940-1960's and the other half 1981-1991, and I wanted to scan their rating for myself (so I don't have to browse through the magazines every time), anyway.
     
  7. OLD FOGEY

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    Johansson was only knocked out by one man, a heavyweight champion,
    in his career. This seems a harsh rating. Carnera went a long way and
    a lot of fights before he was knocked out at all. Also a harsh rating.
    Patterson was only knocked out by heavyweight champions.
     
  8. DocDevil

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    Truly enjoyed the Ingo report,you guys amaze me with your research capabilities.I had always heard Ingo was counted out.Have a lotta respect for what Ingo accomplished,not my top twenty guy,but enjoy reading about him.I wish the oldest surviving heavyweight champion was in better health.
     
  9. Marciano Frazier

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    I would personally rank Machen ahead of Byrd, but I can see where it's debatable.

    Yes, but Ibeabuchi arguably lost to Tua in his win, and didn't have any rematches to lose.

    Well, Wilson had just knocked out a 17-2 opponent in one round and then held Orlin Norris to a split decision at the time. Looking at his last few fights, he was giving a lot of respectable gatekeeper-types tough times and even occasionally beating them, so a prospect struggling with him might not be a total black mark.
     
  10. Marciano Frazier

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    That whole list seems rather poorly done- I would've thought it was an ESPN list if I didn't know it was from the RING. It has that quality of being made up almost entirely of the guys who would first pop into you head and being badly weighted towards heavyweights, much like the ESPN lists that are supposed to be pound-for-pound but always have four of the top five be heavyweights, usually with Sugar Ray Robinson mixed in, and then add a bunch of undeserving heavyweights down the lower half(Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield in the top 20 pound-for-pound of all time?!?).
     
  11. heerko koois

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    :p
     
  12. The Long Count

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    Ingo is underrated, he demolished the number one contender and HW champ in back to back fights which is impressive. He also laid waste to the entire Britsh heavyweight scene during an era where it was ripe with talent. He just didn't have a passion for the sport, it showed in his lack of training dedication and his short career.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Johansson staggering to his feet, his eyes glassy and his arms hanging at his side. Johansson, 200, apparently had the better of the dull fight until the final minute. He concentrated on his left jab to pile up points, and never landed his famous right hand. Brian London, 206, carried the fight but he could not land a solid punch until the final seconds when he stunned Johansson with a left and crashed him to the canvas with the right. The count had reached four and Johansson had just lurched to his feet when the bell rang. Referee Andrew Smythe of Ireland, the sole judge, awarded the fight to Johansson." -Associated Press

    Below Ali v Ingo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP6wZPuAZp8
     
  14. Vinegar Hill

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    I remember at the time as a young lad seeing a picture of Johansson lying flat on his back in the British Boxing News magazine.
    I'm sure it was in the corner and he did look rather out of it,but of course a photo is only a moment in time so he obviously got up.
    I've always thought Ingo was underrated,and there's no doubt about the power of that right hand.
    His opponents were always rendered pretty helpless when he connected,it was a genuine devastating weapon.
     
  15. jowcol

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    BS! What's the definition of 'glass jaw'. And everyone always seems to bring up Patterson. Was rising BOTH times against Sonny. Liston is quoted as saying he NEVER hit anyone as hard as he hit Patterson, feeling his punch impact deep into his back. He got up 7 times against Ingo. Radamacher? Give me a break! Floyd has an embarrassed, bemused look on his face after going down against Pete, and, minutes later, was relaxing on the ropes after dropping him for the 'hundredth' time.
    Many of Patterson's KD's occurred because of his off balance style.
    Hell, for the sake of an argument, Lennox Lewis was in more of a *****-street puddle in his two KO's than Patterson EVER was!
    Get off my childhood hero's back! :D