Ingredients To Defeat Floyd Mayweather Jr & Fighters Who Hold Them

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Yes you are drugs....Pacquaio doesn't have the movement to beat or bewilder Floyd or even trouble him. Pacquiao will be target practice....and JMM could pose problems if he were a larger man.....he is not.:huh

 

Pac didn't do much jabbing against Hatton but doesn't he tend to drop the left when he jabs?

 

Oh no. I was just wondering. :good

 

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Intelligent well thought out post. But you can't really use the fact that ceratin fighters troubled him a little in the early rounds. He usually figures them out and then its game over (Judah, Hatton). Floyd has one the highest ring IQ's ever, and can easily analyze whats going on and then make the necessary adjustments. So what does the fighter do, when he maybe has some early sucess, but Floyd figures out what he's doing and neutralizes it?

 

I haven't seen that Sosa fight before, I suprised at how well he dealt with Floyd. The scorecards were terrible, nowhere near as wide as that, but it goes to show what being the favourite can do to the judges perspective.

One thing that I have always felt is required to beat Floyd is exceptional speed. Floyd has excellent reflexes and finely tuned reactions, a man with average hand speed will be hitting thin air all night. This is why I never really bought the idea that a mauling/brawling approach would work when executed by someone like Hatton - his hands just aren't fast enough (and his arms are too short!). Zab has tremendous hand speed, and I think that was one of the key factors in him taking the lead for the first few rounds, but he has a poor boxing brain and was unable to adapt when Floyd made changes. I don't think power is a necessity, but it could be effective if it were coupled with great hand speed.

I defintely agree that a sounds defence is also a requirement. Floyd is very accurate with his punches and the judges are always on the look out of the clean contact. If you can force Floyd to miss (which is easier said than done) then you have a good foundation on which to base your game plan (note: Sosa appeared to have Floyd missing a lot, which contributed to his success.)

 

Of course you can refer to other fighters, it just provides a template from which to work. Floyd is definitely a great adapter, but I think his incredible stamina is also overlooked, and both his punching power and his mental fortitude under duress are underrated (or just not mentioned as much). I'm sure these factors play a major part in his breaking down of opponents. In the case of Judah, his stamina and lack of mental strength let him down. In the case of Hatton, his punch resistance and lack of hand speed let him down. Of course, it was Floyd that took advantage of these weaknesses, but that is the point of this thread - to try and do the same thing to Floyd.

 

Excellent article! Cotto, Williams, Pacquiao, Mosley and Margarito can all beat floyd. floyd knows they are capable of busting him up and avoids them.

 

:rofl:rofl Margarito does not fit any of the criteria mentioned you trash can.

 

People have been critiquing Floyd's style for over 12 years, and nobody has beaten him. On television this can be peeped, but television/film doesn't really help a lo, and it can't replace Floyd's speed, heart and desire. Sosa couldn't box, and Floyd had to be wary of a man who throws bombs every time out. Dlh had a long reach, was taller than Floyd, and he outweighed Floyd by like 12 pounds or more. Dlh tried to keep up at Floyd's pace, but he couldn't, and that is why he lost.

Pac has trouble with boxers, so Floyd has to be careful of Pac's rushes, and his speed...the same way he had to be careful fighting Judah who had some success against floyd but sat back too much in that fight and eventually Judah was worn down in the end. Marquez presents problems because he can box, and if he sits back, he can get Floyd to open up or come forward which is right up his alley. Floyd wears his opponents down with defense, standing in the pocket, and throwing body shots. Is there a fighter out there who gives Floyd that kind of trouble. Yes, and his name is Paul williams. Good post.