Ingredients To Defeat Floyd Mayweather Jr & Fighters Who Hold Them

The only way to beat Floyd is to be born with Castillo's pressure and chin, Pac's southpaw style, Marquez's boxing ability, and Paul Williams height and reach as well as Paul's busy, relentless punching. There isn't an all around fighter like that in today's game who can do that, or who is built like that. They are going to have to wait until Floyd starts to shows signs of age which will be soon.

 

Good read but your observation is out dated, those faint only worked on floyd because he was allot more aggressive in the early parts of his career. If you try to faint a master boxer your going to come up short especially if he has fast hand like floyd. If you faint a fighter like floyd, your more then likely going to get very quick head and foot movement from him to offset your attack or he will try and bait you in, but you will not get him to throw a punch for a opening. The only way to truly catch floyd, is to punch when he punches. The few time floyd has been caught flush is when the other guy was throwing punches with floyd, floyd also has a habit of hooking from the outside when in close if you can keep your yes open and throw one down the pipe you can catch him. But trying to faint floyd out of position is a mistake, Oscar tried that and took a straight right square to the mouth. Floyd not landing punches is not going to frustrate him at all, he is a old school tacktician he will simply box around that and win on points, remember KO are not that important to floyd.

 

Margarito, before the shelling he took from Mosley, scared floyd because of his fearless, relentless, ferocious punch volume and forward pressure, as well as his ability to ignore punishment, his confidence, conditioning and size and strength advantages.

floyd clearly saw something in Margarito which he was not sure he could handle and smartly avoided the dangerous Mexican American wrecking machine.

if there is any doubt in floyd's mind he ducks and dodges that potential opponent by using a myriad of various excuses and reasons as cause for the evasion, ie not big enough draw, not enough money, nobody knows who he is, won't do business with his promoter, won't fight him now but will fight him in the future when it makes more sense, would have fought him if I picked his name out of that hat, etc.

 

you asked for fighters who hold those traits right?



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Floyd had nothing to fear from Margarito. He beat an iron chinned Baldomir who weighed 162 on fight night. Margarito was slow, and had no skils' and would have got peppered all night for an easy UD.

 

How may times are you going to write this same old shite lol??? You should be worried more about how Dimitrenko got his ass kicked. Boxers like Floyd's aren't scared of anyone, yet you keep saying this day after day lol. If you ever boxed, you would know that fighters aren't scared of each other. You look stupid when you keep on posting that Floyd is scared of this guy or that guy lol...

 

Sorry I didn't reply earlier, I just stepped out for a bit.

Great analysis. Well defended points.

One thing I would add, and tell me if you agree... I find that Floyd steps his right foot up when he's getting to throw a right hand lead often. Check if you can find footage of this also. I think that's a great time to pressure him suddenly. Hmm, I made my own analysis of how to beat Floyd a long time ago, I can't remember at all when I did it. I'll try and dig back in my posts some time this week and I'll post it to this thread to see if you agree.

I agree that Floyd's rhythm and timing count for quite a bit. Once Floyd gets comfortable in a fight, he's got a ****ing radar for every aspect. You can't let him get comfortable.

Your point on feinting is huge. If people just wing shots at Floyd, he can slip that all night long. Hmm, read Bruce Lee's manual, "Tao of Jeet Kune Do", he talks about how feinting is to be used in fighting. You want to feint just enough to draw the reaction from your opponent, but not enough to put yourself offbalance. An effective feint-artist may well hold the key to unravelling Floyd.

The jab is definitely good. What people need to understand is that you don't need to be busting Floyd's face up with the jab per se, but to offset his rhythm. Jab to the chest if need be, they don't all need to land. Not lazy jabs either, look at how he timed N'dou over the top all night when he tossed out lazy jabs. Educated, measured, controlling jabs are the type.

Defense, yes. Someone with weak defense will never beat Floyd. If he can pick shots on you, he will do so. He's too accurate for a leaky defense.

 

Those are the ways to beat Floyd, its just that its very hard for a single boxer to accomplish all of those things while in the ring with Floyd. Maybe Manny can do it, and at 135 lbs maybe JMM can do it but at 144 lbs or higher I dont think JMM can take Floyd.

 

Margarito would have been target practice for Floyd, and nothing but.

 

it will take a lil' bit of KT & FO. to beat him.

 

Easy to say, But Floyd didn't want none.
(& He don't have the firepower of a Shane to hurt Margarito in anyway)

 

I'll agree Floyd doesn't have Mosley's power, but he doesn't need to. He can just win on points, whitewashing the judges' cards. I don't see what Margarito brings that wins him any rounds. Cotto faded late when he tried to outbox Margarito. Floyd can box and move all night without fading or getting tired. Floyd's a tremendous sharp counterpuncher, which, all added up, spells serious trouble for Margarito.

 

Every man gets scared at some point, such as Mike Spinks with Tyson, Joe Gatti with Norris, Floyd Patterson with Liston. lil floyd most definitely showed fear with his stuttering and stammering when Margarito approached him. and that bizarre crying episode after the Baldomir fight. floyd has fear but he covers it up with his big mouth and the loud mouthed facade. floyd's fear of being beaten up is so prevalent it will cause him to never ever go near Cotto, WIlliams, Mosley, Margarito or even Pacquiao, all of whom are capable of humiliating him.

Baldomir was 37 when he fought floyd, Margarito would have slaughtered Baldomir, come on.

 

I doubt it. Baldomir has the tools to actually beat Margarito.