Ingredients To Defeat Floyd Mayweather Jr & Fighters Who Hold Them

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  1. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wrong floyd had his rib broken in the Castillio fight, and he still went on to finish that fight competitively and win a decision. body shot will trouble anyone not just floyd, but he has managed to well against some pretty good body puncher in the past.
     
  2. Marquez

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    The reason Floyd stopped fighting in prime Top opponents with good chins was because of Castillo.. He attempted to fight a good chinned fighter in Baldomir (although not in prime) but it backfired... that fight was a complete failure.
    I think Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, and Pacman could pop the Fraudy Bobble.
     
  3. Marquez

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    LMAO!!! Fraud is a notorious liar.. he comes up with the biggest lies every time he is made to look bad in any fight..
     
  4. Danny_Rand

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    Great post. You actually used videos to back up your assessment. The only thing I disagree with you is on Oscars jab. I think that was a myth. If you listen to commentary Manny steward talks about how Oscar WASNT throwing his jab. That was in the 4th round.
     
  5. smitty_son408

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    Thanks. Those right hands had something to do with that also, but they were working when he used them early on, once he got lazy with the jab and Floyd's right hand and one two's starting being effective it disappeared.
     
  6. Farmboxer

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    I think Pac is wrong style for Void.
     
  7. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post!

    Nice point on the rhythm aspect. I remember an interview where Floyd said that showing your rhythm against him would work against you because he would specifically throw punches that were against the rhythm to throw you off. And that was why he doesn't bounce around like other fighters.
     
  8. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i still believe that if yu can get on the inside of floyd, you can cause him problems, i know people will say well hatton did, and it didnt work.....but hatton had no jab in that fight.....castillo had a jab, and made floyd fight on the inside lots of times........floyd's weak point is inside fighting....and also slowing down the pace of the fight will help as well....
     
  9. Ringnut

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    Funny thing about JMM and Pac is that they would trouble PBF in different ways

    One of Pac's strengths is his awkward style that just leads to a huge variety in angles of punches. He seems to have very little regard for positioning, he mostly just moves aggressively forward and throws punches from whatever position he finds himself in (which is why he seems to have a lot of those wild no look punches) but because of his incredible athleticism, he pulls it off a lot and lands really hard punches that way. And because of this, his opponents often don't expect those punches and pay for it.

    Whereas JMM relies on very smart positioning, and that coupled with a great sense of timing and distance pulls off great counters that seem to catch his opponents at just the wrong place.

    Pac seems more like an instinctive fighter and JMM a more intellectual fighter. But definitely both have the tools to trouble Floyd.
     
  10. smitty_son408

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    Is that why he rematched him straight away and beat him again?
     
  12. NeckBreaknAiken

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    Good original post.


    I will add, if Floyd grows some stones and fights Paul Williams, he will get smothered in the early rounds, and worked to death in the latter rounds. He doesn't have the power to hurt Petey, and he knows it. He doesn't have the workrate to steal rounds from him, and he knows it.

    Long night. He couldpull it off, but I wouldn't bet on him.
     
  13. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Very good thread.

    Question: Does that mean you think there is only two (known) fighters that can beat PBF right now?

    How about Mosley? He is not a big jabber (he mainly uses it as a distance gauge) but i think his high power punch output number mixed with very good speed can sure disturb Floyd a lot. I'm pretty sure Money would have a hard time catching his rythmn there. What do you think?
     
  14. smitty_son408

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    Paul Williams height and reach present problems all on their own, Floyd would definitely have a hard time with Williams. I have to say though, I don't see Willams throwing 100 punches a round with Floyd's movement and defensive ability. He would definitely have to cut off the ring and use his reach to his advantage, which means actually fighting his height for a change.
     
  15. smitty_son408

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    True, Mosley jab is more a range finder rather than a score mechanism. Even though he has a high guard his defensive skills are rather average and he has always been rather hittable. But, his toughness and speed most definitely would provide problems, though I don't think he possesses the ring IQ to get the better of Floyd for 12 rounds especially in his old age.

    I only listed those two fighters, basically because their the only two fighters around his weight range who hold some of the attributes I listed. Mosley, Williams, and Cotto definitely have a chance, just not a very good one imo (Williams aside, he would definitely be his toughest challenge).