Innovations in boxing styles - Who were the innovators

I'm not sure but Archie Moore had to be one of the first to do the Turtle defense (Cross defense).

 

good thread was just away to make it

 

I've seen the likes of Jake LaMotta using the shoulder roll so I doubt Locche invented it. Archie Moore too, of course, used it.

Some of the techniques have been there since the beginning (of what we know about boxing's history atleast).

Willie Ritchie's combination punching seems a level above many of his peers at the time but I doubt that he was the first to throw 6-7 punch combinations, just the first that I've seen on film.

I haven't seen Walcott use the Ali shuffle but I've seen Kid Gavilan do it a couple of times. Walcott did have his "waltz" though which may be comparable to the "shuffle".

 

I'm pretty sure he's the reason Ali "invented" the rope a dope, as well. Not sure if Archie borrowed it from someone before him, though.

 

From GPater's thread:

"Mendoza's style, while I can't put my finger on one specific aspect of it, is the first recognizably modern system. It even has 4 punch combinations."

I'll find the full text of the manual if anyone's interested. In a lot of ways it's more modern and combination-oriented than late-19th century manuals are.

 

Not to mention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpFTVrutZe4
3:40

I guess Max Baer invented it.

 

Possibly, and ironically against the guy who he helped train (Foreman). And maybe even more ironically refused to listen (Ali) to his teachings as a trainer (Archie).

 

Kid Mcoy and his "corkscrew punch."
Ruby Roberts " Fitzsimmons shift."

 

Me

 

Interesting old thread!
Floyd Patterson was the first one who used the peek-a-boo effectively. Ceferino Garcia is considered to be the inventor of the bolo punch. James Corbett might be the first boxer with an extensive footwork.

 

All the credit should be going to a lot of 20s down fighters for creating these styles that later fighters would perfect.

 

Jem Mace and John L Sullivan might have been the most important in terms of gloved boxing.

 

Didn't Mayweather change the way people do pads?

 

It always surprised me how late padwork came into general use in boxing. Just as a general matter. It seems to be an obvious adaptation in hindsight.