Inoue has underachieved if he doesn't become a 6 weight world champion

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, that's called high risk, high reward, which is still calculated risk from an advantageous position, cause you come up short and can pull a Mikey: he was too big!

    Unifying, cleaning and dominating a division eliminates calculation entirely, as high risk low reward comes naturally. Your argument fails as it can be translated to Spinks, Holmes, Berbick and Tucker alone were more perilous than facing this no-hoper Douglas. And yet they did not beat Tyson. The high risk, low reward guy did. Which is why I rate Hopkins' single division run with all comers over at least 3 of Pac's many divisional achievements. And say Inoue should do the same at 118.
     
  2. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I doubt Inoue can move up to 147 and still fight at age 40.
     
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  3. Paranoid Android

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    Cotto, Hatton, Clottey, Bradley, Mosley, Vargas, Horn, Rios, Matthysse, Broner... Let's have some fun.

    Forget former flyweights. Do you think Lomachenko or Gary Russell Jr. or Tank beats any of them at 147? Do you think any of the guys Pac didn't fight at 130-135 would beat any of those guys at 147?
     
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  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Omg, shut up
     
  5. BigBone

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    Do you think Douglas would beat all I mentioned before? You are missing the point entirely. Inoue needs no pointless ABC belts in many divisions, he needs to be a ruler in a single one, defeating all, making bantamweight legacy and there's plenty of names around to do so.

    And then... then we talk moving up to another division. And then when he cleaned, another.
     
  6. Paranoid Android

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    Navarette (sp) is a bigger win than if Inoue haven't moved up and beaten Estrada and Rungvisai.

    Once again, if Spence were to beat GGG or Canelo, do you think his resume takes a hit because he never cleaned out 147 or 154?
     
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  7. Badbot

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    You dont increase muscle mass just because you eat...
     
  8. tinman

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    If you eat a large enough surplus yes you actually will. If I gain 100 pounds it will not be all fat.
     
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  9. Badbot

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    :lol::lol::lol: You mean the muscle to help you carry that extra weight? Sure.
    And that is exactly that Roy and Manny did. They just ate more! ...oh, wait. That was James Toney.
     
  10. Arj Guy

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    Moving up in weight and fighting bigger and better opponents is far more impressive than staying in a division unifying and just fighting every B level guy there is. You don’t make any sense what would be more impressive Loma staying at 135 unifiying and beating everyone in the division mostly B level opponents or going up welterweight and beating the likes of Spence,Porter etc?
     
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  11. Boxcel

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    Inoue has the height and reach to potentially go up to 130. He needs to lift weights and slowly add muscle mass and also work his neck to increase his punch resistance as he moves up. The frame is there to fill. Sure if he just packs on some fat he will struggle at that high of a weight, but if it's quality and functional muscle he will find success.
     
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  12. Boxing Prospect

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    Key part of that is POTENTIALLY

    There was an article posted in January querying how high Inoue could go, with suggestion being for him to win a title at 130 he'd have to be very selective-
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  13. Boxcel

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    It's dependent on how he goes about it. He should already be looking ahead at moving up soon. The correct way to go about it is to slowly add muscle mass right now as long as he can still make 118. The slow addition will help him acclimate to the weight. In addition is adding more mass to the neck. If he does this he should carry up the punch resistance and power no problem.

    Now the 2 absolutely wrong ways to move up is to cut less weight + walk in light at fight night or just eating more and add fat mass.

    Biggest reason why some can't carry their power up is not increasing their strength and muscle proportionally to when they were lighter.

    Biggest reason why fighters become significantly less durable moving up is not increasing their neck strength and size proportionally as they move up.
     
  14. Angler Andrew

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    :risas3:
     
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  15. Angler Andrew

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    Manny has the big calves.Inoue to my eye doesn't look big or juiced up
     

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