Inoue is better than Canelo

Nonsense.

Still no answer as to what Prograis does better and who has he beat?

 

To be fair to Taylor I think his resume is pretty good- a lot better than Prograis’ atleast. I think the fight between those two was close because of styles- with Taylor’s aggression and fighting up close playing into Prograis’ hand

 

Better than Fulton? How so, all you're doing is stating a point of view with nothing to base that on.

Prograis' resume sucks, who has be beat that's any good? His entire reputation is based on giving the overrated Taylor a tough fight. He struggled badly with Zorilla then gets schooled and dropped by the light punching Haney.

Fulton has far better defence, better foot work, actually knows how to counter punch unlike Prograis. Pograis is a fighter who relies heavily on his physical attributes, take away his speed and power he'd be a gate keeper at best. He's technically inferior to Fulton in so many areas.

I agree that 122 before Inoue was devoid of any real elite fighters but the same is true of 140, which is why Haney and Lopez were easily able to move up and dominate the 2 best fighters at 140 with ease. You can't say 122 is weak and not acknowledge 140 was also just as weak when both divisions have basically had the top fighters cleaned out by guys moving up.

I'd love to see Inoue go up that high but I don't think it's likely, 126 probably, 130 is a stretch as that would mean his career spanned over 5 divisions and not many fighters ever do that and at 135 he'd be dwarfed. He probably walks around at 140 and would be giving up 10 lbs or more to the guys there and there's some real quality fighters at 135 with Davis, Loma, Shakur etc.

 

But yeah I agree both were pretty overrated

 

I disagree about Taylor's resume, he dominated a really weak division and dominated is a very loose term given how Catterall boxed his head off and Lopez moved up and played with him. Prograis, Ramirez and Postol is not a resume that screams quality to me. We've seen a lot more undisputed champions than usual in recent years and a lot of that has to do with the proliferation of titles, being a world champion means a lot less in an era of for major belts and with interim, silver, regular belts on top of that. Top guys of the past had to prove themselves a lot more to earn a title and so becoming undisputed was harder because it was harder to get to the top of the divisions while now you have so many unproven guys ranked highly or even winning titles when they've basically proved next to nothing at the top level. So yeah on paper guys like Prograis are good wins but as we've seen in his last 2 performances whenever he steps up he gets beat or made to look very average.

 

Yeah I’m not saying I rate him in a historical sense or anything lol I just think his resume is pretty good and respectable, unlike Prograis’. 140 sucked ass yeah but it was better than when Crawford was there and it sucked double ass. And to be fair he looked like a literal husk on the scale against Catterall and Teo but that’s his fault for staying at the weight too long. Not sure why he’s still insisting on staying at 140 even now when 147 is probably the worst division in boxing with everybody leaving.

 

Sped up caveman lmao. @PIPO23

 

No kidding! The only thing I give Canelo over any fighter right now is his chin. No other fighter has a better chin than Canelo. Other than that, Inoue is better for sure.

 

Just remember when the media doesn't show much of something, that something isn't going to be known to people. That doesn't mean that something isn't good or quality. It's unfortunate the lower weight classes don't get enough coverage. Inoue's resume is just superb. Most Japanese fans don't know who Tank is. Does that mean Tank is a hype job?

I remember when the western media back in the day would only show white women in tv and ads basically making it out like white women were the best women to offer. It got many people brainwashed thinking they were the top.