I mean I realize I can't change your mind but Floyd was a killer below 147. You sound insane. Floyd most definitely never loses to Salido or Teo. And before you go thinking I am some Floyd hugger as is the case when you say anything positive about a fighter, he most def cheated against Pac. Literally caught in the act. This content is protected
Floyd is way, way greater, but Teo isn't 100% out of the question. He had a very close fight vs Castillo, and even in the second fight didn't dominate before the KO. When Teo wants to be, he's slick and crafty, which combined with heavy fists makes him very dangerous as an opponent. I'm not saying he should be the favorite of course, just that he'd realistically have chances. If you've only seen Teo fight Kambosos or Martin (I'm not saying you only have), I could see why you'd think he has no chance, but if that is the case, watch his recent fight vs Taylor. You'll see his slickness.
I disagree, he's clearly special, guys south of 126 rarely have one punch KO power, even rarer to have that KO power with both hands and even rarer still to be as lethal a body puncher as a head puncher. That along with the fact he's one of the best counter punchers in the game right now and has great hand and foot speed too, clearly makes him special. I do agree that at 126 or below or even 130 and below there are a lack of any real big stars and threats to truly cement his legacy. Donaire is the best he's faced and he was past his best, still very good but Inoue needs a stand out win and he won't find that at 130 or below. He could clean out 122, 126 and 130 and that would make him one of the best in his era along with Usyk, Loma and Canelo. But he needs those big name wins. That may seem harsh for Inoue fans but look at Crawford, a long career, unbeaten, undisputed at 140 but people question how good he is because his opposition lacks any big names, which is why he needs a win over Spence to cement his legacy.
Inoue embodies the efficacy and efficiency taken to the extreme in a crucible of dedication and discipline. Timing, rhythm, distance--all the fundamentals of combat are there fleshed out and honed. Sheer athleticism and granite chin solidify him as a force of nature. We were supposed to see his limits at 122. We've only understood that we don't quite know them yet.
Naoya Inoue is nearing mythical status. He will reach heights that will have future generations questioning if there ever was a boxer named Naoya Inoue.
His first fight after the war, in a division in which majority of fighters dwarf him, arguably past his prime.
Inoue is making it into mainstream. The amount of casuals inhaling copium because of Pacman comparisons and the destruction of their Philly slickster (no disrespect to Stephen; world class boxer with guts and grit) is insane. Observe as they finally enter the matrix and soak in the glory of the Monster. Even if Inoue retires at 34, that's still years of all-time great career to watch. Taking the torch from Usyk who might consider retiring soon.
Yea, never saw what the big deal was about him either. He didn’t suck, but pfp1? Nah. Inoue is drastically different though. He just beats you up, brutally.
I think he's better than Pacquiao in terms of technique, but not as physically gifted. I don't think he can climb as high as Pacquiao. Inoue is basically Paquiao if Pacquiao received proper training from the beginning. That sort of show's you how good Paquiao is considering his humble beginnings.
I agree the talent pool is shallow at those lower weights but inoue is much better than chocolatito who I never thought was anything special. I always said a prime donaire would've washed him.
Not true. What you’re seeing is talent differential, not a weight differential. when haye beats valuev, 120lbs difference or so, that’s not cos size advantage was diminished, that’s simply cos there’s only 1 315lbs boxer in the world. He’s a terrible boxer, F level, local amateurs are more skilled than him. So the skill gap closes the weight gap. imagine Inoue vs an F level 180lb, like there’s only 10 people in the world that weighs 180lb, and one of them decides to box. Statistically, much lower talent pool therefore probably much lower skill. F level. An amateur with 2 years exp looks better. Inoue is destroying any 180lber with only 2 years exp. Valuev has much more than 2yrs exp, still, his skills is equivalent to that of the average good amateur with only 2yrs exp. Pool size matters. statistically, a global talent pool will draw the best talent over a random village with 10 people who decides to box.
Inoue is more skilled and more athletic, he is better overall. But I’m comparing their careers. Both got very high accolades for beating a bunch of obscure opponents in very obscure divisions. And they’re not obscure cos they’re small, they’re obscure simply because they’re not that good. When fighters are great, they stand out regardless. Both also relied on perfect boxing skills to get by. But neither were phenoms. You look at an RJJ or a Tyson or Floyd or Pac and it’s as if they’ve surpassed normal human movements. None of you can tell me Inoue is on that level of special. Another perfect boxer is someone like Finito Lopez or JMM. Is Inoue p4p better than those guys? And if he is that special, let him fight Loma. That’s a huge fight, and a huge name to put on his resume. That sort of jump should be nothing for a special fighter.