Inoue next fight is Junto. Usyks next fight is Wilder

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    So many folks who are so threatened by Usyk. Guy went undisputed at cruiser and undisputed at heavyweight against the super heavies that everyone said the likes of Ali could never beat. He’s definitely in the discussion. If you don’t have him as your GOAT that’s fine but he’s definitely in the discussion skill wise and accomplishment wise.
     
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  2. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only idiots think Ali could never beat fury and AJ lol.

    I’m not against usyk. He’s the best pfp right now imo due to his achievements.
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’m talking about the likes of Lewis, Klitschkos, Fury, AJ, Wilder etc. the r’super heavies. Before Usyks folks were talking about how the old heavies would have no chance. Now that Usyk did it, these old heavies are getting credit as if they beat a super heavy.
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why are you forcing it
     
  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok but the amateur part has nothing to do with the pros
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i always thought ali would beat the crap out of everyone at hw today. still do. thats why i said someone his size would come along and beat all these elephants everyone was saying were too big for the past atg's. granted, i didnt think it was going to be usyk when he first came up, but he did what i said and expected to one day happen.
    people still dont get that weight in combat sports is not the same above 200lbs as it is below. if it was, valuev would have gone undefeated, and brock, who is close to 300lbs of lean muscle, would have twisted cain into a pretzel.
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

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    LOL. Miller is fat blob. If he were in shape, Dubois would weigh more. Really, you do no favors by making these kinds of absurd arguments. I mean, NOBODY read this and said, "he's got a point."
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In shape Fury isn't as big as you think.
     
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  9. Serge

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    Of course it does it's literally hundreds of fights of wear and tear on your body fighting at the elite level for a very large percentage of those fights facing the best fighters from their cities, regions, countries, continents and sparring with with fellow national team members and members of other national teams. Prime Usyk was so much better in many areas than he is now and has been for a long time
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk went undisputed at damn near 40 when his style has historically aged like milk. His IQ, skill set, chin and hard work is just so insanely high that people that him for granted. 40 year old Usyk should not beating 35 year old Fury who’s 5 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier. 40 year old Usyk should not be koing an absolute monster in Dubois.

    Everyone called Holmes shot at 38 against Tyson, yet an older Usyk whose style should age way worse than Holmes is “overrated” lol. Usyk just has the ability to adapt and beat any boxer that has ever lived
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    But because he is 6'7"--6'8", he can carry the weight and make it useful for punching power, like he did against Wilder.
     
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  12. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im saying your amatuer career doesnt effect your pro standing. At least to me it doesnt
     
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  13. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You miss the point

    Heavyweights are generally all massive so the size difference isnt that big of a deal

    Its not like in the lower weights
     
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  14. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly obviously Inoue can never beat Benavidez
    that doesnt mean hes not as good as Dubois because Dubois beat Miller
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes, I've been a big fan of Usyk since 2008 so I've seen every version of him including pre-2008 after going back and watching a whole bunch of his amateur bouts before I became aware of him. We've never seen a prime Usyk at HW on the pros but he still managed to slay all these giants and savage punching giants on their backyards and on the road and the B-side on a deck stacked against him and even given 3 of them 2 opportunities how to solve the puzzle and he was the one who had a much smaller margin of error and with everything to lose.

    Everytime you face a KO artist or puncher you're crossing a minefield, let alone ones who are way bigger than you and you give them 24 rounds and 2 rolls of the fixes as opposed to 12 rounds and 1 roll the chance of you getting KTFO is obviously much higher

    Crawford got dropped by one of the few punchers he fought his size and he never gave 2 of the others rematches and a chance to solve the puzzle even though one of those fights was razor-close and controversial, they were the champs not him, and they brought their belt to him and fought him on a deck heavily stacked against them.
     
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