Inoue's power is overrated

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I realized that. But at the same time I got and get the feeling that hes trying to say it enough to make himself believe it.
     
  2. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    People have to stop with this Walters was a giant featherweight narrative. That was started as a kind of excuse as to why Donaire got crushed. Walters was 5'7, and weighed within 5 pounds of Donaire in the ring. There were several featherweights taller, and weightier than what Walters would enter the ring at, so while Walters was above average in size, he was no giant.
     
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  3. Serge

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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Nonito might have been 36 but like I said a 36 y/o B-Hop would've beaten Joe Smith. Do you think a 52 y/o Nonito makes it out of the first round against Inoue? Hell, even a 42 y/o one gets squashed in a couple of rounds.

    Inoue KO1 52 y/o Nonito

    Smith Jr. KO8 B-Hop who was coming off a 2 year layoff

    The above ^^^ proves via science that Inoue hits harder than Smith
     
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  5. farpost

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    You should keep in mind that Inoue was suffering double vidion and forced to fight with almost a single eye since round 2.
    In that situation, you cannot punch with 100% power nor 100% accuracy.
    Do you agree?
     
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  6. Pimp C

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    Power punchers are usually always overrated to some degree. He has power he did hurt Donaire no matter what he says.
     
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  7. Serge

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    Carl Frampton, former two-weight titleholder/TV analyst: Inoue’s power is astonishing, but he’s accurate and he punches correctly. He gets good length on the shots and turns his knuckles over. His biomechanics are perfect. I was sitting up-close near the ring apron (at the Rodriguez fight doing commentary), and there’s apparently TV footage of me on social media just shaking my head in disbelief. His win over Rodriguez was one of the best live performances I’ve ever seen. That’s a big statement, but he was brilliant.

    Stephen “Breadman” Edwards, trainer: He’s probably the hardest puncher pound-for-pound in boxing right now. The thing I like most about him is that he knocks people out with so many different shots: the right hand to the head, the left hook to the body, the left hook to the head – he’s very even-handed. This guy is one of the biggest punchers from the lower weight divisions that I’ve seen in my life. You’re talking guys like Manny Pacquiao, Alexis Arguello, Ruben Olivares – Inoue is one of the biggest punchers ever from 126 on down.

    Joe Gallagher, trainer: You meet him face-to-face, then see him in the ring and it’s like two totally different people. It’s like he’s walking around with bazookas in his gloves. That was a fantastic win last time out. I worked against Rodriguez with Paul Butler (Rodriguez won the vacant IBF title by unanimous decision in May 2018), and he’s a solid operator. Against Inoue, Rodriguez probably won the first round, but once Inoue detonated that left hook it was game over. He just came in and absolutely crippled him with a body shot. To have Rodriguez turning to his corner and shaking his head – a fighter of that quality – speaks volumes about Inoue’s power. He was hit and he stayed hit. It’s unbelievable that Inoue has that much power for such a small man.

    Steve Kim, ESPN columnist: On a scale of 1 to 10, based on recent results, Inoue’s power is a 10-plus. He’s tearing through opposition that’s known for being very durable at an unprecedented rate, and two of those guys (McDonnell and Payano) didn’t even see Round 2. It’s impressive because the Payano knockout was a one-punch right-handed shotgun, but then he overwhelmed Rodriguez with combinations that were as fast as they were powerful. There’s a versatility with the way he punches; it’s not just about being strong, it’s about executing and doing so at a world-class level. I don’t think there’s anyone else doing it the way he is right now.


    McDonnell on Inoue

    Boasting incredible confidence, but lacking knowledge regarding his profession's landscape, McDonnell was ready to put his crown on the line without knowing the threat that was awaiting him in the 'Land of The Rising Sun'. After being informed of the news, the next person he advised about the imminent battle was his twin brother Gavin, and the studious super-bantamweight, a two-time world challenge, provided his sibling with all he needed to know about Inoue.

    "It was our Gavin that told me how good he was. I told him about the fight and he gave me a look that told me it was going to be a hard night. I think he said something along the lines of "He's good him, mate," with this look on his face. After that I had a look at him and you couldn't deny that he had power, but I preferred to focus on my strength because he was coming up in weight and I believe that my engine, size, and experience could take him into the later rounds and slow him down. I knew it'd be a hard night, but I was confident I could take his power."

    "He can punch. There's absolutely no doubt about that, but I wanted to see so bad whether his power would stay with him in the middle rounds and when it got late.

    "The first shot he hit me with shook me and when you're in a fight feeling as empty as what I did then Inoue is not the ideal opponent. I'll say now that his power is as real as it gets.

    Nieves on Inoue

    'Nieves (18-2-2, 10 KOs), who faced Inoue in 2017 at the StubHub Center in Carson, California, speaks glowingly of him.

    "He honestly is a great fighter and I would say [a top] pound-for-pound [boxer]," Nieves said.

    Nieves recalls that as he was hit early on by a clean shot from Inoue, he immediately became a believer in Inoue's vaunted power.

    "He punches hard and he punches fast,'' Nieves said. "Sometimes you run into guys that are great punchers but are not really quick, so you can't adjust. Sometimes you run into guys who are really quick but can't really punch, so you can adjust.

    "But this kid just has it all. He's quick, he has great leg movement, good footwork. He's just a great overall fighter."

    Payano on Inoue

    'Even in a recent stoppage loss to unbeaten Luis Nery this past July, Payano was holding his own until getting drilled late in the fight.

    Prior to the WBSS tournament, the Dominican southpaw—who relocated to Miami, Florida in 2010—suffered just one defeat as a pro, a narrow points loss to Rau’Shee Warren in their June 2016 rematch, 10 months after defending his title in an equally close win in Aug. 2015. Warren is among the slew of world class athletes to have shared the ring with Payano through 470 combined fights over the course of his boxing life,

    None, he insists, are as good as Inoue.

    “I have fought the best in the world in the pros and amateurs,” notes Payano, who went 425-21 as an amateur. “He is by far on a different level altogether.

    “No one is going to beat him.”

    “He’s just that great”




    Inoue has KO'd 7 world champions in 19 fights

    Beterbiev has KO'd 3 in 15

    Bootleg Dorticos aka Bum Squad has KO'd 2 in 42 fights

    Joe Smith has KO'd 1 in 27 fights

    Inoue and Beterbiev are the 2 hardest punchers in boxing
     
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  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Swedish... but other than that, yeah
     
  9. KO KIDD

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    I think it tends to happen that when a guy is undefeated and destroying everyone he fights there is a big tendency to overrate but its only natural. But there are also more sensible more experienced fans and semi to full blown fan boys. I dont feel as though Inonue was getting shoved through our throats

    As for my take I think this fight indicates his power. Donaire admitted he is hard puncher but said Walters hit harder but explained that Walters is a bigger fighter naturally. Donaire also pointed out he is bigger than Inonue and that he was well equipped to handle the shots. Inonue didnt stop Donaire but he dropped him and rocked him on multiple occasions. I wouldnt say Donaire going 12 or fighting with Inonue rather than running indicate a lack of power. Plenty of punchers have gone the distance but it doesnt necessarily diminish their power.

    I will say we learned a lot, it was to my knowledge the first fight where he saw real adversity and given the injuries he suffered I am massively impressed with the performance he put forth in 11 and 12 to seal the fight after Donaire really seemed to have the momentum on his side.
     
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  10. Rumsfeld

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    I think this is total nonsense. Inoue might not be the most powerful in a P4P sense today, but he's undoubtedly on a very short list.
     
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  11. PIPO23

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    Hold on a minunte i have quotes too....


    Donaire:
    “The Inoue fight was my hardest ever and I enjoyed every moment of it,” said Donaire. “I think a rematch would be even more exciting.

    Donaire, 37, said Inoue could be the best fighter he’s ever faced. “He’s got great power like (Vic) Darchinyan,” said Donaire. “He stunned me a few times with power shots but I was never dazed.

    So he has Darchinyan like power...like i said. In my expert analysis.

    But his technique is what amplifies it. His placement and timing. Very hard on the jaw. But his defense is OK.
     
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  12. lighteningjab

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    This.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    that boy can crack, no matter how you wanna measure him.
     
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  14. Badbot

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    Man, prime Darchinyan had scary power.
    He slowed down a bit in his 30s as he moved up in weight. But he still kept a scary high KO%.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Walters was a natural Lightweight monster who boiled down to 126. Donaire is a slightly large Bantamweight. Donaire always had a great chin at 118, hence why Rigondeaux couldn't even make a dent in him. He should have never moved up, especially not to Featherweight to fight behemoth like that. His chin and durability has never been in question, Donaire is tough as nails.

    Joe Smith hits like a sledgehammer, but it still took him 8 rounds to put away a 51 year old coming off of a two year layoff with shot reflexes.
    Deontay Wilder landed flush shots all night & couldn't put down a fat sluggish out of shape dehydrated Bermane Stiverne.
    Deontay Wilder also couldn't legit KTFO Duhaupas & Arreola, who were also walking into his power hand all night.
    Tank Davis' most impressive scalps are a badly drained Pedraza on his way out of the door to Lightweight and Fonseca. Big whoop.
    Beterbiev teed off on Koelling for 12, Gvozdyk for 10, and Kaladzjic for 5, they took his power and flush.

    None of them are without their hiccups, and "why did it take him that long?" type questions. And none of those opponents are as durable as Donaire or had the firepower to keep them honest, like Donaire, or a fractured bone in their eye to keep them skittish from overcommitting.


    Inoue's power is just fine.