Inside Facts of Pugilism - Siler

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Is this book worth the read? I have read a couple Siler descriptions of bouts and his style is quite clumsy and stilted. However, maybe he has some good insight. He was certainly in the right places during his career.
     
  2. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing books that old are almost always tough to read. The style is downright distracting, but still, I find myself taking notes when they describe little tricks and traps in the ring that are otherwise lost to history. If that's your aim, I'd say get it.

    For a "good read," I prefer historians' boxing biographies -loved Cavanaugh's Tunney and Ward's Unforgivable Blackness. There's a cost there too, though. They often have little or no understanding of style or technique.
     
  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I thought Cavanaugh's book was a little too hero worshippy myself. Nothing about Tunney and the sauce. Or fighting black dudes.
     
  4. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, he didn't say much at all about Tunney's glaring fault. However, the book was very well-written and that is more than can be said for most.
     
  5. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    True, plus I like how it's presented as a Dempsey and Tunney pair of storylines. I reckon that I'd enjoy the book a lot more if it had been presented as a tale of two fighters rather than just a tunney retrospective, actually.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yeah, I read both those books. I am looking more for stuff closer to the source.
     
  7. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you have Nat Fleischer's "50 Years at Ringside" or Frank Klaus's "The Art of In-fighting"? These have a few gems in them. I have John L.'s "Reminiscences" but haven't opened it yet.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Did not know Klaus wrote a book. Is it any good? Read Fleischer. Have not read John Ls' book. He never seemed like the brightest bulb, frankly.
     
  9. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he didn't have a ghost-writer, then I'm Elvis's ******* son.

    Find Klaus's book here. It says the download is free:

    http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-art-of-in-fighting/15109603

    It has alot of photos that include him and a partner demonstrating technique and he explains these pretty well. Some of it is nothing new but I've taught quite a few of these to a Featherweight swarmer and with good results.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Let me know with what level of honesty Sully addresses his life.

    Thanks for the download link!
     
  11. Swarmer

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    In This Corner is necessary, if you haven't read it already. first hand accounts of champions discussing their careers and opponents up until the late 70s. Gunboat Smith to Duran. Great read.
     
  12. Seamus

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    read it twice, just lent it to a friend yesterday, in fact.
     
  13. Stonehands89

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    read it twice, would never lend it to a friend or anyone else unless I held their first-born son as collateral.
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Do you have a signed first edition or just really shitty friends?
     
  15. PetethePrince

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    :lol: