INSIDER facts about Cintron

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by conditioner101, Nov 24, 2007.


  1. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    I am sure you believe that the thread where gayweather defeats all the Walters of the 80s is more merit-worthy than this thread.
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    You're a pinoy *****. Life must be hell for you.:yep
     
  3. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm glad this guy 101 is on here and posting what he has. That is what this place is for. I respect Bazooka's right to take him to task. Now we need Kermit in here to tell his side and then this thread will be one for the ages.
     
  4. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh did you take offense to the comment I made??? OMG here you are defending yourself because I have the audacity to address you as a soldier, and not a Marine. First off there was no slight intended there.... second if you are so offended that you felt the need to come here and correct me then why am I out of line for taking up for myself when Kermit used every form of media to smear mine and Marshalls contribution to his success in life, and boxing.
    So what if I went and told everyone who would listen that the Marines are nothing but a bunch of sea going bellhops? That the real warriors of the US armed forces are the member of the Amry, Navy, and Airforce. That Marines are nothing but a bunch of brain washed simple minded fulls that will do anything they are told to because they can not think for themselves? How would you respond to that? Would you in your words "shut the **** up, and move on?"
    For the record I admire all members of the US Armed forces, and hold none in higher regard over the other. I just think this guy is a bit of a hypocrite.
    If you do something terrible and someone tells other people about it... you really have no room to complain about that... you did something terrible. But, if you do something nice for someone, and that person decides to blame all his failure on the person that helped him because he is not man enough to say he ****ed up... then heck yeah you should step up and say that isn't the way it happened.
    Kermits performances in the ring back up everything I have said. Quits against Margarito twice. Takes a knee on his own accord after taking a clean str8 left from Martinez and calls it a headbutt. Dives out of the ring against Paul Williams finishing in a perfect forward should roll. I immediately grabs is nneck, and then tells every one that he hurt his lower back and got the wind knocked out of him. Anybody in here ever get the wind knocked out of them for real? Are you able to hold a conversation while gasping for air??? LOL NOT! Then thinking he had the fight in the bag he and his manager decided to say he couldn't continue only to have karma come bite him in the ass by giving the decision to Williams. How about the dropping to the floor after stopping Feliciano, and rolling around in "agony" because of his hand. Even though throughout the fight he never once indicated the hand hurt. Lets not forget the gay dance he did after his one fight... the dance which is the open scene to the now famous "Kermit is a Puto" video.
     
  5. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There are no sides to the truth. I have not embelished, or exaggerated any of what I have stated. I believe his in the ring actions substantiate what I have written here.
     
  6. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :lol: Interesting facts on Kermit especially the Hopkins one. Today hed probably last 2 or 3 rounds with Bhops. Seemed sky was the limit and he blew it. Wtf was he thinking with that dance?
     
  7. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I think you tend to over exaggerate the entire deal, you feel that you had the ability to take Kermit to the top.... and claim he went to **** since leaving your gym...

    Okay thats fine to say that, but honestly what proof have you that your the one that can take him all the way? you havent with anybody else so why should he believe that you would be able to?

    And about him smearing you via the media etc..... Why dont you do what the normal trend is now and days for little sensitive people like you file a defamation suite :good Pac and Bhops say its okay
     
  8. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yo conditioner... stop responding to him... he is ******ed
     
  9. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We put gloves on Kermit for the first time in his life at just under the age of 20. Four yrs. later he is 24-0 22 ko's. NABF n WBO champion. 14 fights on TV. HBO. PPV. SHOWTIME. NBC. TELEFUTURA. Defeated 2 fighters that were ranked in the top 10 by Ring Magazine. Was stopping fighters that had never been stopped before, and was knocking down guys that had never been off there feet. Carried his power late into fights. Had scarcely lost a round in his entire career.
    How many fighters have you done that with? Oh yeah ZERO. So if I take the number of fighters you trained from the beginning of there career, and took to a world title and multiply that number by a million that still equals ZERO!
     
  10. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL yeah... the best he can come up with are insults about ****ing my mother, and juvenile **** like that. I can't wait to see what names he call's you or anyone else who supports what I have said throughout this thread.
     
  11. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    conditioner101, do you think there was ever a realistic chance of Kermit Cintron beating Margarito?
     
  12. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    maybe atleast cintron can get a an angulo rematch. that could be his saving grace
     
  13. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Had he showed up in the same condition n mindset he had when he fought Teddy Reid... yes. Teddy hit Kermit with a few bombs in that fight, and was throwing over a 100 punches a round. Trust me when I tell you... Teddy Reid is one of the hardest punchers in welterweight history.
    He spent some time at our gym about 2 years after he fought Kermit. He had sparring footage from when he was with Tom Yankello. He showed us video of him dropping heavyweights in sparring with one shot. It was unreal.
    Kermits fights can be explained very easily. If he hurts you early in a fight... even just a little bit... YOU LOSE. If he doesn't hurt you early... your chances of beating him improve by leaps and bounds as each round progresses. Kermit is a classic front runner.
     
  14. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    It just seems to me like Margarito could smell the ***** in Kermit (no disrespect to Kermit, ofcourse.. just playing on words). And regardless of Kermits state of mind, I think Antonio would of employed the seek and destroy tactic to perfection 10/10 against Kermit.
     
  15. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I think you mis understood what I was saying, what I ment was, the point you brought him to is likely the furthest you could have taken him, I dont think you would have made a difference in the Margarito rematch or the Williams fight or even the Molina fight.

    I think Cintron just got to a point in which that was as good as it gets...
    But still to come here and cry about him wanting to better his situation is just pathetic... the kid has a right to sure you brought him into this sport but tell me this did you do it for him? with out expecting anything in return?

    Thats where I am getting at this entire thing is about you, its about what you can get out of it.. which is pretty ****ed up IMO, but hey thats what you do for a living you go out find kids promise them the world work with them in the gym and when they realize they need to make an adjustment you come here and stab them in the back just because you got your feelings hurt with things that were said about you through the media and because your not working with him...

    And yes you can say Cintron looked like crap since he left you but he has also looked pretty good in fights as well.. keep bringing that mans business here and keep talking **** about him, I am sure the more you make this public the more young hopefulls will be lining up outside your gym for an opportunity to work with you....:good