http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=22911&more=1 Pacquiao Gives Blood....19 Days Before The Fight....Hmmm Filipino Manny Pacquiao took part in the same physical examination and check up that every other fighter has to be part of prior to a showdown. The examination itself wasn't anything special, but the time frame in which it happened was....very! In Mayweather negotiations, Pacquiao stated that "couldn't do blood work within a certain time frame of the fight because it makes him weakened. He set a cut-off of 30 days until news surfaced that he did his blood work approximately 24 days prior to the Hatton showdown. The agreement of 24 days was the ultimatum....take-it-or-leave-it style. Well, on February 22nd, Pacquiao took part in this same procedure. That was 19 days before the fight, and 5 days outside of the 14day proposition that Mayweather requested. What was even more intriguing was that the VERY NEXT DAY he was said to have dismantled sparring partners with ease, making many wonder what happened to the weakened state that was said to have made him miss up to 3 days in an effort to recuperate in the past? I maintain that Pacquiao is innocent until proven guilty, but knowing that the first athlete in the history of sports recently popped on a randomized blood test for HGH's (a rugby player across the pond), one truly can't help but wonder why none of the options he agreed to allowed testing that would come without advance notice. I love the guy, but this is one issue he and I just won't ever agree on! I'm not sure if you guys follow Vivek but he has a channel on youtube and makes some good points and seems to be fair. I'm a Pac fan but I do think he should have taken the tests but he is STILL innocent in my eyes but the fact that he was sparring the very next day seems odd to me! What do you think?
Vivek's articles are good, but he's not as fair and unbiased as he always says he is. Every other sentence hes saying something like "im as objective as it gets," when he clearly has a bias towards floyd. Nothing wrong with that one bit, its hard not to have a bias against or in favor of one particular fighter, and hes not a nutthugger kind of guy either. Its just a bit annoying reading him trying to convice us over and over how objective and unbiased he is
This human embarrassment keeps on slapping all the fans in the face with his actions and still ppl like him or turn blind to the FACTS that are all there .... He should be banned from the sport until he does the tests... BTW, how could u possibly prove his innocense/guilt if he doesn't submit... I can only imagine olympic athletes refusing to submit and challenging the proper authorities to prove them guilty by other means... wouldn't it be the same??? "NO BLOOD TESTS HERE, PLZ, I'm a clean guy and that insults me, not to mention it also weakens me!!"
If olympic blood testing was the norm in boxing do you think pac would have a problem submitting to it?
Well he has Pac above PBF on his ATG list and also he has never claimed Pac was on drugs he just questioned all the differing stories coming from the Pac camp. So I think its clear he doesn't have a bias towads PBF.
Absolutely.... either he would have a problem or he wouldn't be where he's at now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO doubt!!! :good
How many fights have gone on since this fiasco took place? Now out of all those fights, how many have submitted to such testing? That's right, NONE. I know you're still ***** hurt that Manny destroyed Cotto but it's ok, eventually the pain subsides and you'll be a-ok again. That's quite clever however the olympics has already had it's testing in place for some time now therefore anyone competing in it now is already aware of the rules. What's funny is imagining Team Canada (hockey) demanding extra testing from Team USA out of nowhere right before they're about to play. Now how odd would that be? Exactly..
I hate yo motha****in ass... But you make very good points here... This giving of blood 19 days out is a pure embarrassment. And Pac fans like to twist into some sort of defiance to Floyd, when it is really only a defiance towards boxing fans. Diehard pac****s are the only ones who are glad this fight isn't happening, and who were happy to see Pac walk away from the negotiations. They were the only ones.
You make good points but can you respond to what Vivek is saying please, Pac said taking blood weakens him but the very next day he hands out an ass whooping to his sparring partners. I'm a pac fan and I dont think he'son drugs but that seems really odd to me.
Vivek is objective as every other human being... that is NOoooT in immortal Borat's words. Look, you can find evidence for everything if you believe in it really hard. If you think this is far fetched, consider this - there is a society for flat earth which members truly beleive that earth is flat and can discount any evidence that 'seems' to indicate otherwise!
There is no source of that rumour, and even if it is true, it is far from clear that it DID not weaken him - he's so much superior to most figthers that he should manhandle them even with half of his blood sucked out of him. You see my point? I'm sure you haven't even thought of the possibility, i.e. that explanation. I'm also sure you'll find a logical way, at least for you, around this inconsistencies in your thinking but that doesn't change the basic facts - you are biased, I'm biased, so is Vivek who is probably the biggest fool for claiming that he is NOT biased because everyone who has ever lived is biased - we all have our views and beliefs, our previous experience, which make us approach every situation in a biased way.
Manny's excuses are attempts to justify his refusal to Floyd's demands. It's not that he can't take it. He can. He just want to be 100% conditioned - mind and body - against Floyd cause he knows he's gonna need it. He doesn't want to give PBF that advantage however small. Whooping sparring partners isn't the same as going inside the ring with arguably the best boxer at the moment, with legacy on the line.
oh bull**** dude you dont know what you are talking about!! :barf pac is cleaning up all your fav. fighters and will destroy floyd to this is why you run your mouth you have ab. no proof of what you say ...none!!:-(
So, Vivek is fair and unbiased for everything else, but this? Think what you are saying. Maybe it is you who is unbiased here?