Interesting article on Saturday's fight

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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  2. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Heavyweight boxing fans … betrayed"
    Um, ouch.

    Using Lewis's fights against Tua and Mavrovic is a pretty poor comparison, though. He threw and landed twice as many shots against Tua than Wlad did against Sultan, and anyone that's seen the Mavrovic fight will attest that he got hit with bombs and kept on ticking. That fight was not a jabfest.

    However, playing devil's advocate here - if Wladimir-Sultan fight hadn't been on the heels of both a Joe Louis documentary and a slugfest from Duddy, might it have been received a little less negatively?
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Possibly. Fans watching on T.V would still be pissed. However, the crowd may have been more forgiving.
     
  4. kaygb

    kaygb Member Full Member

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    Interesting read, and certainly a lot of truth in the article. That was a horrible heavyweight title fight with Klitschko throwing nothing but jabs for 5 1/2 rounds against a guy who was no threat. A Heavyweight fight is expected to be a war with both men giving it their all. This was a fight with the best heavyweight doing nothing but sticking that jab out and the other guy just swinging wildly and missing. What was Wlad thinking by not showing any power punches for the whole first half of the fight? Even Wlad admitted it was a poor exhibition and yet, of course, all the nuthuggers on ESB have come out of the woodwork and praised Wlad for the great win. Did wlad look like a great champion, look like someone who is supposed to be the greatest in the world?? Of course not. He looked pathetic, the fight was pathetic and the responses from the nuthuggers are pathetic. Their guy has no confidence, is afraid of being hit and refuses to go all out and show the world he is the best heavyweight in the world. He fights like that's not important to him.
    Maybe, just maybe, it isn't.
     
  5. Galileo Galilei

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    :lol: Wlad didn't show he's the best heavyweight in the world.

    Wlad looked damn hard to beat to me.

    Just because the fight sucked doesn't mean Wlad sucks.

    Look, everyone was expecting more than what was delivered.

    Wlad could have scored a knockout if he would have pressed the issue.

    He fought a safety first boring fight and for that he should recieve criticism all day long.

    But to say he's not the best heavyweight today or that his alltime standing, whatever it might be, is tarnished because he had a boring fight is laughable.

    After a string of what have been boring to mediocre to flat out bad this Satruday, I will be in no hurry to attend a live Wlad fight or purchase a ppv of his, if he ever has one.

    Just because I have lost interest in his fights doesn't mean I don't recognize the obvious...he's the best heavyweight in the world today, and even with his flaws he's a good heavyweight during any time period.

    The fight's entertainment value and the fighters talent level are two different things.
     
  6. Ring Master

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    "Some fight fans on message boards already have given Klitschko a free pass, saying he fought a smart fight.

    I see nothing smart about diminishing sports fans' interest in you.

    And I see nothing smart about dragging the heavyweight division down by suggesting that even the best of this bad lot isn't worth getting excited about."

    :good
     
  7. Marquito_666

    Marquito_666 ESB´s #1 **** star Full Member

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    A boring fight doesn´t equal two sucky fighters.
    To the boxing fans entertainment comes first...not so hard to understand.
    Though, I bet that to the fighters the victory is more important than
    the opinions of some computer twerps.

    Were talking about one hell of a boring fight here....an easy win.
    Let it go.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Right, an easy win. The fight was boring for the first six round, and average for the last six. Wlad did hit Ibragimov hard a few times. Iggy had a good chin, which is why this was not Wlad vs Brock. IMO, Wlad should have had one knock down scored.

    While Wlad took the easy path to victory, did Sutlan really go for it? I don't think he did, but perhaps if he tries hes knocked out. It was a clash of style and perfrences here.

    On the plus side Wlad made Sultan miss easy. Great defense, jab, and ring gernalship.
     
  9. Galileo Galilei

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    Yep, people seem to be confusing a boring performance with a bad performance.

    Its pretty simple Wlad's stock as the top heavy went up, while his stock as a must-see attraction took a big hit.

    Two different things entirely.
     
  10. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Whoa- aren't you the notorious Floyd nuthugger?

    I believe I have seen you defend Floyd against those who say he should fight by reminding everyone on ESB that the sport is "boxing".

    So why change standards with heavies? Why are they supposed to go to war?

    I haven't (and won't) defended Wlad, but are you really in any position to criticize him?
     
  11. tragicliston

    tragicliston Active Member Full Member

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    Co-sign
     
  12. Galileo Galilei

    Galileo Galilei Active Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  13. PolishPummler

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    Excellent point!
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Half right IMO. His stock as a HW stayed the same, because while it was impressive that he won with only one hand, there are now questions being raised because of his reluctance to throw the right hand that night. No one has given an answer that covers all the bases for why he didn't throw it earlier. The only one that makes sense is that he was wary of being countered. And so he still looks quite vulnerable to many.
     
  15. BigReg

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    No one says he has to go to war. But let me ask you this. As cautious as Floyd is, have you ever seen him go 4 or 5 rounds without throwing a right hand? How you ever seen him constantly jab and be reluctant to engage an opponent who was smaller than him? You can't compare Floyd and Wlad. It's apples and oranges.