Interesting article on Shane Mosley

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Shane Mosley: When The Music Stops

    December 7th, 2009 | by Jesse Campbell

    Who didn’t enjoy a good game of musical chairs as a kid? When the music stops, you push, grab, and shove anyone in your way to get a seat. The lone person standing is out of the competition. Well, in the world of boxing, Shane Mosley was left standing when the music stopped.

    Mosley is set to face WBC Welterweight Champion Andre Berto on January 30th, 2009 for a far less spectacular fight than he initially pushed for. He spent much of 2009 talking himself, the public and the media into believing he was deserving of a fight with Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather.

    It is Mosley’s belief that he’s the premiere welterweight in the world. This belief is partly due to a recent upset knockout of Antonio Margarito and his association with new trainer Nazim Richardson, trainer of Bernard Hopkins. (It’s Shane’s relationship with Hopkins that in all likelihood has spawned a “trash-talking” Mosley. I use the term “trash-talking” loosely because he’s absolutely terrible at it. Regardless of his impressive 46-5 record, there is nothing intimidating or funny about Shane Mosley)

    Shane has been quick to point out both Manny and Floyd’s disinterest in a fight with
    him at 147lbs. But at age 38, is Mosley really as deserving of such a super-fight as he believes he is in his own mind?

    Doping allegations aside (Mosley did admit to injecting himself with designer steroids prior to his 2003 fight with Oscar De La Hoya), Mosley’s resume isn’t exactly as “decorated” as he would have the public believe.

    Prior to his KO of Margarito, Mosley went 12 rounds with the moving target known as Ricardo Mayorga, who had been recently knocked out by Tito Trinidad in round 8 and Oscar De La Hoya in round 6. Despite being considered the closest thing to a punching bag in the sport, Mosley only led by one point on one judge’s card, was ahead by five points on another and trailed Mayorga by a point on a third judge’s card. Basically, Mosley was a round misstep away from a loss before knocking out “El Matador” in the 12th.

    Other recent notable wins include a win over Luis Collazo and Fernando Vargas (who has since retired and is currently competing with James Toney to see who can get to 200lbs over their fight weight.) Throw in a loss to recently battered Miguel Cotto and only one fight has elevated Mosley to the top of the pound for pound list. Quick analysis would show that this fight, in which he defeated a fighter in Antonio Margarito, could have been due to his corner preventing a cheater from cheating.
    Regardless of how much value you place on the Margarito fight, none of the facts outlined here substantiate his new found bravado within the welterweight division. Somehow I feel compelled to make a comparison to Daniel-Son picking fights at school after winning the All Valley Tournament.

    Shane Mosley with have to face the music when he steps into the ring to fight Andre Berto (25-0 19 KOs) on January 30, 2010 and we’ll have to wait until then to see if he is still standing when the music stops.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    anyone can spin **** any way they want. This is one of the bad cases.

    His win over Margarito "could have been due to his corner preventing a cheater from cheating."

    The guy probably didn't even watch the fight.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I think his overall point was that Shane has really only 1 noteworthy win in the last handful of years.
     
  4. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The writer is a total Floyd fan. Look at the language of this excerpt, "Shane has been quick to point out both Manny and Floyd’s disinterest in a fight with
    him at 147lbs. But at age 38, is Mosley really as deserving of such a super-fight as he believes he is in his own mind?"
     
  5. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Is that guy paid to write that ****?
     
  6. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Wow what a terrible article. Shane has a great career and his resume isn't padded. 2nd, Shane beat the consensus #1 WW that is why he is the number 1 WW.
     
  7. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Berto fight will hopefully answer a lot of the questions and put Mosley in persepective. Which is basically what this guy is trying to say.
     
  8. Irish84

    Irish84 Mr Full Member

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    Someones paying this guy to spin this sort of s***
     
  9. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    this is very biased article but it also raises some credible points , though it was written in such a one sided way that ESB members will ust dismiss it instead of study it
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Can anyone name the top level fighters that Shane beat since the second Hoya fight? Why is he still relegated to regular HBO?
     
  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Piece of **** article posted by a Mosley hater.
     
  12. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Doesn't really matter if he hasn't beaten top level people. He did beat Antonio Margarito at 147 when he had just beaten Cotto and was the consensus #1 WW. That is all that really matters. He beat the man at 147 easily and now he is the #1 at WW.
     
  13. kirk

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    - Dominated Collazo (who again, fought almost evenly with Hatton and Berto)
    - Fought pretty even with and barely losing to a peak and primed Cotto
    - Destroys Margarito
    - Signs to fight undefeated, talented young gun Berto

    Collazo is almost even with hatton and berto, mosley dominated him thouroughly, not quite sure how thats not a 'noteworthy win'
     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    people are too narrow-minded on the W and L column.

    Mosley's second loss to a prime Winky Wright at 154 is alot better than most wins out there. His close loss to Cotto is also better than many wins out there. Stopping Vargas twice in a row and Mayorga who outweighed Mosley by 10 pounds on fight night is really impressive. Also I had Mosley up 7 rounds to 4 going into the 12th and really putting a beatdown on Mayorga so despite waht those scorecards read, he was in no trouble of losing the fight. Mosley also dominated Collazo after Collazo arguably beat Hatton and then absolutely destroyed Margarito after Margarito knocked out Cotto.

    Thats an impressive resume.
     
  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    In his last fight he beat the guy that was considered the best Welter in the world and that makes him the man at 147.

    What has fraud done in the last three years to be ranked second on the pound for pound list and be in the top three at welter?