Interesting Debate Featuring Henry Hascup

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mcvey, Sep 20, 2018.


  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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  2. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Facts and statistics are a bit different :)

     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Pedantry?
     
  4. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fantasy matchups are always subjective and require more than just average records or number of ranked boxers or HoF-ers met or beaten. I recall an old argument on this forum about Canzoneri-Hatton, where I pointed out that Tony's meetings with aggressive swarmers weren't quite to his liking. But everyone was saying he's an ATG and met/beat all these people, he can't lose to someone like Hatton.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I just thought it was an interesting piece.I'm not prepared to argue its merits or de-merits.
     
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  6. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More interesting is how they have lots of threads in boxing history section with only 1 or two posts, but lots (thousands) of views. Still, I wouldn't have objected if we moved fantasy matchups into separate section on this forum. So that I don't have to regularly go back several pages to see this or that interesting recent thread. Out of 30 latest threads this very minute, almost half (14) are about fantasy matchups, plus 2 or 3 threads that don't belong to history section being a discussion of a late fight.
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I've thought about that, but I wonder if you'd end up with just less traffic to the history section, and knowledgable posters posting less in fantasy fights.

    I know some threads allow you to tag threads and filter them, so you could browse only fantasy fights, or filter them out. Not sure if that's possible here, but could be a solution.
     
  8. scribbs

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    Agree with this as I hate fantasy matchup debates, just what if's and not really relevant to learning about boxing history.
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree in principle with your idea.It would save time and focus.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Ali fought 38 different opponents 49 times in 61 bouts that were rated at one time or another in the top 10 in the World. - 80.3279%

    Louis fought 43 different Opponents 54 times in 71 (or 72) bouts that were rated at one time or another in the top 10 in the World. - 76.056%

    Rocky fought 13 different Opponents 16 times in 49 bouts that were rated at one time or another in the top 10 in the World. - 32.653%

    Anyone wanna figure out Wlad's?
     
  11. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    I agree. New section for fantasy matchups is a great idea.....
     
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