Interesting Gary Lockett Article

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  1. booradley

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    Only footage I've seen is old. So. Just have to wait for the actual fight. That said, if he has fought good competition, it hasn't done much for his visibility. Interesting that Joe C himself has this one sized up. Preview?
     
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  4. booradley

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    I thought that this statement was one of the more interesting aspects of the article:

    “Joe Calzaghe said to me ‘Styles make fights. If you fought Winky Wright or even Jermain Taylor, they might be a bit above you but this guy is different. He’ll be more suited to you because he’ll stand in front of you and anybody you can hit, you can hurt’. It’s a simple as that.”

    Pavlik beat Taylor in a slug fest, and then beat him again in a tactical boxing match. However, Joe C says Taylor is too much for Lockett, but Pavlik is not! Pavlik has knocked out guys who had never been stopped before, and he has out boxed guys who had never been out boxed, and yet people still consistenly underestimate him.

    I don't think a Pavlik/Calzaghe fight will happen because there is just to much difference in where they are in their respective careers; Joe is on his way out, but Kelly is still on his way up. However, the more I learn about Calzaghe, the more I hope the fight does happen!

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  5. TFFP

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    You are reading way too much into it. Joe is just trying to make his mate feel good about himself
     
  6. booradley

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    Am I reading to much into the 97,000 times Joe has called Kelly out? No matter what we think of either fighter the fact is Kelly Pavlik is gonna HURT anybody he fights. He is, at the very least, a really rough night for anybody at 160-175, but Joe, and all of the Newbridge gang, talks as if Slappy would walk right through Pavlik. I get real tired of reading that ****.

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  7. Boro chris

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    Its not as if he's the first arrogant boxer on the planet!:D
    And to be fair, a lot of posters here who think Joe is a level above Pavlik aren't all nuthuggers.
    However Joe is ageing and if Pavlik can get him to postpone retirement till 2009 AND get him to drop back to 168lbs then he'll have an ok chance in my book.
     
  8. TFFP

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    I doubt they think he would walk right through him, although they probably do think he'd box his head off, as do many educated observers on this site

    It's just a bad matchup for Pavlik.
     
  9. JETSKI

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    I've wanted to see this guy get toasted right after the Lacey fight when he went from a EuroNobody to P4P on everyone's list because he beat a overrated, overmuscled B rated fighter.

    He's just disrespecting Pavlk & Kelly would knock his ass out & he knows it. I doubt it will happen, too. Kelly can't just jump to 168 & fight Joe C. Plus, Joe may stay at 175 after B Hop.
     
  10. booradley

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    Personally I think it's the other way around. Pavlik is everything Joe needs to stay away from here in the twilight of his career. Yes Joe is fast and awkward, but everytime he comes in winging those wild round house punches, Pavlik would eat his ass up wtih straight shots up the middle. Yes joe has a really good chin, but Pavlik aint backin' up. He'd force Joe to stand and trade, and Joe's chin will not stand up to that. Joe's accuracy sucks; 28% against the Robo-Dane who wasn't even returning fire a good deal of the time. Pavlik's accuracy is very good to great most of the time. What happens when Joe is landing 28% of his slaps while Pavlik lands 35-40%, throws 80-100 punches a round, and sits down on damn near everything he throws? Answer: Pavlik KO10 Calzaghe.

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  11. TFFP

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    That EuroNobody has CLEARLY beaten guys Pavlik could only dream of competing with, let alone beating, in Kessler and Eubank

    Funny you should talk about B class fighters. That's exactly what Mr Pavlik has made his name on thus far. A B- in Miranda and a B in Taylor. Don't suppose you have so much of a problem with him being P4P now do you?
     
  12. booradley

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    This is some really dillusional **** right here! Joe C elected to fight BHop who Taylor beat twice. Did you forget what Pavlik did to Talyor? Kessler is ducking Miranda, but Pavlik jumped at the chance to fight him, and then beat him like the proverbial red headed step child.:hi:

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  13. TFFP

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    35-45% :rofl :rofl

    What are you smoking son? Nobody hits Joe Calzaghe with that percentage of shots

    I like how you have conventiently neglected to mention speed, a key factor in this fight, and also the southpaw stance and jab which will completely negate Pavlik's jab, which he uses to set up virtually every attack

    There is a reason the best fightpickers on this site choose Calzaghe in this fight, which doesn't automatically prove anything, but it gives an indication of who has the upper hand stylistically

    Sounds like you are blinded by bias rather than boxing analysis, since you've pointed out a few of Calzaghe's weaknesses against Pavlik's strengths which is not the basis for analysing a matchup, using that logic your favourite fighter wins every single time
     
  14. booradley

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    Let's see now -- You just lost all credibilty -- I didn't mention his speed or southpaw stance? What the **** does the word "fast" mean to you. The southpaw stance? Didn't I say "awkward?" And, if you think a southpaw stance is an advantage against one of the best lead rights in the business, you really are dillusional!

    Furthermore, at least half of the so called "best analysts" on ESB picked both Miranda and Taylor over Pavlik!

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  15. TFFP

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    Your analysis was just woeful, I couldn't identify with it on any level and I feel a counter analysis would be futile given the levels of bias

    For that reason I'll leave you to your Pavlik love in with JETSKI