Well yeah, I mean **** Joes been a champion for like 10 years, right? And Pavlik has just won his first belt that he's yet to even make one defense of. So in the same regard, it's very tiring to hear the elitist Joe fans always ridiculing him, and to see Joe getting a pass by those same posters for calling Pavlik out once a week, when all of those guys claim Pavlik to be not much more than garbage.
Nobody's writing Lockett off. Infact some of us are concerned simply because we don't know anything about him other than the fact he has a good record.
OK, Benji, I have asked others, so please tell me about how good Lockett is, and against what competition he did his thing. Before you accuse me of anything, please check my posts and notice I have never written Lockett off or shown him no disrespect.
I will try. Can't say work has been in abundance and kind to me as of late, but if I can I sure will.
Have a read around the forum..a lot of people are writing him off! I think one person ont his board said he will never come back if this bum beats Pavlik. I suspect he's never seen Gary fight before and knows nothing about him. Anybody who calls a fighter a bum is better off not being here anyway! It's a good styles match up and a good test for Pavlik.
OK, and please understand I'm not trying to be smart ass here, but I'm guessing it's safe to assume he had a little more than 2 weeks notice for the Thompson fight??
no i was not disrespecting you in person. i meant in general. everyone i talk to is writing lockett off but yet noone can tell me anything about lockett. i never said you showed lockett any disrespect. hopefully you can make it to the fight mate:good
Well JetSki does get a little passionate sometimes. He is for one who I consider President of the ESB Pavlik Fan Club. He has posted pictures of his Pavlik memerobilia collection that's is quite large and impressive. He will always, the same as Joe C fans do for Joe, back Pavlik with full passion. But if you check his posts, both he and I started respectfull threads about Lockett for learning purposes of him, and I'm betting it would also show Jets full passion didn't come out until there started being a ton of posts saying Lockett is gonna make Pav look stupid. I have seen a few myself that say Lockett will take Pavlik out with in 4 rounds.
Joe's calling out Pavlik I believe because he feels he's got great name recognition and is Taylor made for him stylisticaly. Basically he feels Pavlik is a bit overated. Personally I feel that Joe's slowing down a bit and not punching with much of his old authority. The time to catch Joe could be now(ish). I personally would love to see a Pavlik/Calzaghe clash and think it would be fairly competitive, and I dont understand why some people think Pavlik is garbage. Slow maybe, and vulnerable in the early rounds certainly but he's better than most of Joe's previous opponents. (Eubank and Kessler the exceptions)
The question still remains my man, can YOU tell me anything about Lockett. Here's what I've been able to learn. At the first stages of his career he was looking very promising, until he lost very unexpectadly to a Russian fighter, a loss he avenged btw. Then he has had injury problems over the years and his career seemed to be in a downward spiral. People tell me that when he has appeared of lately he's usually the walk-out bout fighter on a Warren card. I had other posters tell me that after his injury problems, he'd all but disappeared and then out of the blue, here he is with this fight with Pavlik. All info given to me by UK posters.
I havn't seen many people say Lockett will win let alone take him out early! But there are always people who see things others don't. You seem very respectful and articulate which is good to see on here. This forums a great place to catch up on news have a debate or just talk boxing. I'm not into smack talk (what's the f*cking point in acting touch over the net?!?!) so I leave people like that alone. Anyway, enough rambling! I respect anyones opinion as long as there's some basis for it and it's not just a rant! I'm actually a big fan of Pavlik..he had me screaming at the telly in his last 2 fights! But Lockett shouldn't be overlooked, i'm looking forward to the fight.
Your posts have always been very fair, and I've meant to compliment you on this before now.:good But that's the thing, too, as you said above he's calling out a fighter that is young, not yet prime, and inexperienced. Only reason to fight him would be for name recognition from UK's general perspective. I say if Joe wants Pavlik so bad, make the 160 limit, same as KP, and lets see how the fight goes.:hey
I can guarantee you that the long time Pavlik faithful, are not simply overlooking Lockett, and that includes JetSki, as I have talked with him about this. I'm fairly sure his "rant" in some cases were brought on by stupid rants against Pav.