Interesting George Foreman Interview (Mentions Wlad)

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  1. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Foreman also scored Wlad/Haye for Haye.
     
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  2. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Whe couldn't run through jimmy young, but he'd run through Wlad? :lol::lol::lol:
     
  3. Boxed Ears

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    Jimmy Young was SIGNIFICANTLY better than Wlad. Wlad is an amateur volume puncher by comparison.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm9GxMGWxQs
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought Foreman liked Wlad, used to call his fights and be in big praise of him and liked his skills his jab and his power

    maybe the Haye and Povetkin fights changed his opinion
     
  5. Slyk

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  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ive followed Wlads career very closely and he never really got super defensive til about Brock or Brewster II

    After Sanders he stayed aggressive blowing out 2 bums

    Then vs Brewster in the first fight he was very aggressive and it was potentially Wlad's best offensive performance ever up until he ran out of gas and started getting tagged. Ive watched the prefight with Steward several times along with the fight and it annoys me now

    Steward loved Wlads left hook he liked it as much or more than his powerful right and wanted to implement a plan to involve that punch more. You see him jab and hook off the jab throw in combination move well and hold and turn Brewster and fight with much better rhythm and fluidity

    Then somehow even with Steward in his corner they got so far away from where they were

    Now he continued to be more offensive than defensive blowing out Castillo and fighting a rugged fight with Peter though you could see his holding habits forming

    Byrd I he was defensive but didnt hold a lot and was aggressive and stopped Byrd impressively

    Then he defended first against Brock and for those who dont remember he was very passive early and it wasnt til the cut that he woke up and bombed Brock out. Briggs was in the audience and called him out and I believe said he was boring, at the time I was like oh, this is a Wlad fight I'll never watch a second time but oh well off night big KO

    He quickly erased that off night by destroying Austin. Then he fought Brewster in a rematch and a risky fight but one that would prove if he could get revenge, this was the second time he fought safety first and it was a dull fight won mostly on the jab never got too far away from it, he held just a little more...At the time I figured no big deal he just wanted revenge did what he had to didnt make the mistake he made of gassing I'm like ok I can live with this

    Then came Ibragimov and we all know that debacle, from there Wlad started fighting more and more safety first and a lot less offensive, he also started taking longer to end fights, took 11 rounds to dispose of Thompson, 7 to dispose of a beyond done Rahman, Rocked Chambers early couldnt get rid of him til late in the 12th, dropped Chagaev early took him 10 rounds to get rid of him

    He was this big powerful heavyweight who proved he could clobber good fighters and early but now was suddenly limiting his once awesome offense and punching less, varying his offense less and holding more

    One thing that really frustrates me as a big Wlad fan is how he will at times shove his way out of a clinch throw in combo and then resort back to holding

    2 examples:

    Peter II, a fight marred by clinches a lot were Peter but then after a thrashing by Steward Wlad shoves his way out of the clinch and throws hooks with both hands and stops Peter looking like a younger Foreman swinging at Frazier

    Povetkin, the round he dropped him two or three times he was shoving and rough housing his way out of the clinches and just attackin and in his face you could see a killer instinct, then the next round he switched off never once in the fight got anywhere near that level of aggression despite Povetkin being a dead man walking the last half of the fight

    Wlad teased up blowing out Mormeck in 4 and Thompson in 6 and Pianeta in 6 and vs Wach was way more offensive and threw in combination and went all out in the 8th or 9th (cant remember) like I hadnt seen in years....then he follows it up with his worst performance vs Povetkin

    If he fights Leapai I only hope he resembles the Wlad I came to love watching and thats the Wlad circa 2000-2001 he should really just dust Leapai in a few rounds though itll probably take 10
     
  7. cross_trainer

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    Nope. Foreman rated Ali at #4 in his top 10 heavyweights list, after Louis, Johnson (an anomaly who probably got there for his social significance), and Marciano.
     
  8. theboss

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    :lol: And VLAD wouldn't be getting Koed by any 70s version of ALI or retired and dropped by the less then BIRD jimmy young . And talking about the one eyed 200 pound JOE scaring VLAD is ridiculous ect ect
     
  9. theboss

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    :yep:good Don't they look like two 70s beasts in there . YOUTUBE DONT LIE :) Can you imagine GEORGE getting out of the first couple of rounds fighting VLAD like that . he was a slow sitting duck
     
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  11. Rock0052

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    Sometimes, it's the punches you don't throw that hit the hardest. Brilliant.
     
  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Beat Foreman, was robbed against Ali, had a close fight that could have gone either way against Norton.

    Not too shabby a run against the #1, #2, and #3 guys of the mid/late 70s. (Which were admittedly a bad couple of years for heavyweight boxing).
     
  13. 4T9

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    Wlad will never surpass Vitaly
     
  14. Butch Coolidge

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    Yeah, the old timers looked tough when they were 6' 2" 200lbs monsters walking down 5' 11" 193lb opponents. They couldn't sit down on their punches against the top 10 fighters recently. Not unlike how Moorer and Adamek changed their styles quite a bit once they stepped up in weight.
     
  15. Mr "T"

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    Foreman looked horrible against Lyle-Bum of the month club-he's gotta' lot of nerve-lost to Morrison. And he is allowed to rate some of the greats?