http://www.examiner.com/article/george-foreman-wladimir-will-not-leave-much-of-a-legacy-boxing Former Heavyweight champion 'Big' George Foreman made a surprise appearance on Houston's 1430 AM Sports Rap show with Ralph Cooper. George discussed his views on Wladimir Klitschko, the progress of his son George Foreman III, and the influence Sonny Liston had on his career. Here's the transcript from the in-depth interview with the fighter turned grill-mogul. RC: What should Wladimir Klitschkos legacy be when its all said and done? GF: Well, hes a defensive fighter. It doesnt matter if his opponent is big or small, he will never take any chances. Hell probably go down as one of the most reluctant Heavyweight Champions ever. Floyd Patterson wasnt that big, but at least he took a chance and stood in front of Sonny Liston. So hes not going to go down as the bravest guy. The reason why hes reluctant is because he has a weak chin. Hes always trying to protect that chin, but hes not going to leave much of a legacy. RC: If Wladimir would have been around during the times when fighters like yourself, Norton, Shavers, Ali, or Liston fought, what would have happened? GF: He could have stood the test in any era because hes so defensive. However, those guys would have walked right through him. If hes afraid to engage against a fighter like David Haye, he would have been frightened against Sonny Liston. Can you imagine Joe Frazier coming after him? I dont think he would have been able to do well. RC: Where is Monk (George Foreman III) in regards to the heavyweight division? GF: Monk has just had his 12th pro fight, and at the end of July hell have another. The learning process for him is not easy. Monk is at a disadvantage because he didnt have a single amateur fight. So he as soon as he fights, its back to the gym because he wants to learn. In another year, youll see Monk on TV challenging good fighters. He could possibly be a champion one day .possibly. RC: Like the Klitschkos he has a college degree. GF: Monk is very educated, but its so hard to teach these college boys how to fight. I must break him out of that. But I am impressed that he made one sacrifice to walk across that stage and get that degree, and that took him 4 years. He must understand that in boxing you have to make that same sacrifice, and put in the same amount of time, and it may take him another 4 years. RC: Many people dont know that you sparred with Sonny Liston, what was it like to spar with him when you were only 22 years old? GF: Well I first sparred with him when I was 18 or 19. He is the only man to this day that has ever stood up to George Foreman in the ring. Even Joe Frazier tried to charge me but he eventually ran. Sonny Liston stood up to me and actually made me give ground. No one has ever done that to me before or since. It doesnt matter if it was Muhammad Ali, he covered up, and even when he hit me he was on the run. Liston was the only man to stand up to me and make me back up. RC: What made Liston so good? GF: He could hit hard. When he hit you with that jab it would hurt, then hed threaten you with that right hand after hes already hit you in the stomach. I always found myself saying, I dont want too much more of this. (Laughing) RC: What kind of advice did Sonny Liston give you? GF: He once told that if I ever became champion of the world, if I spit on the sidewalk, theyll write about it in the newspaper. Ive never forgotten that. When I finally did become champion, I looked in the newspaper and my whole life was there. He was right. I wish I would have paid more attention and absorbed more from him so I could be ready for the initial shock of your life being exposed and under the microscope like that. But if I had to do it all over again, Id do it the same way! RC: Thanks George. GF: Thank you.
He criticised Wladamir Klitschko for fighting cautiously and winning, but he praises Floyd Patterson for going hell for leather against Sonny Liston, and getting knocked out in the first round! A lot of people don’t seem to appreciate Wlad for getting results!
the old saying- it aint what you do its the way that you do it- george using floyd as an example of willingness even if it meant losing. whereas someone like klitchko with a 2 stone weight advantage and 8 inch height advantage fights like hes terrified. Successful? yes from a couple of standpoints but from a fans point of view its not the most attractive approach. especially when boxing history is littered with astounding acts of bravery. old klitchko just doesnt measure up. george just saying what everyone is thinking
But here is the crunch of the matter. If Wlad could beat every heavyweight that ever lived, using his non fan friendly style, then he would still be the GOAT! I dont personally think that he could, but is it really something we can hold against him?
if he could beat every heavyweight that ever lived? am i the only one who thinks thats a bit of a leap seeing as he got absolutely destroyed by the outstanding corrie sanders, lamont brewster and ross purrity. stop it my sides are hurting now hes a safety first bore tho i do like the way he carries himself in interviews etc but come on, really?
I dont think he has trouble with Norton, Frazier may be another story because of pressure but Vlad could also moved and hold...Vlad has a very good chance of keeping Foreman at the end of his jab and rocket right hands....They all could hurt Vlad is they hit him right but Vlad has also gotten up to win....Foreman is undermining Vlad's talent and improvement and lets face it the early George 1 avoided guys like Bonavena and Quarry and got bounced around the ring by Lyle so good thing he learned a bit more about defense and stamina in career 2 ...funny how quick they forget defensive fighters like Jimmy Young (who learned from being KO'd in 1 by Shavers to fighting a draw in a rematch to beating Lyle and beating Big George
Jesus. I love George, got the chance twice to interview him. Two things need to be said. He is still intimidating and mean as ****. And he contradicts himself every 30 seconds.
So the suspiciously cuddly "transformation" from the terror of the 1970s to Grill Foreman was definitely an act?
Larry Holmes in particular,ahs always said that about Foreman and the one time I met him,he was ok at best.
Holmes is consistently mean & grudging about Foreman & some others, often his own worst enemy. I may be naive, but Foreman's transformation appears legitimate. He does not care about his Church, young people, he is not decent? Anyone can be cranky sometimes, but I would like to hear some specifics if it is claimed that he is so mean.
Valauv could beat everybody in history if he cheated and fouled like Wlad. Would that make him the GOAT? No. That behaviour is only permitted in Germany and HW history wasn't centered in Germany therefore Wlad would not of been a champ in former eras let alone the GOAT.