[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T14JMqi4qr8[/ame] What do you guys think? More interestingly than the contrast between mma gloves and boxing gloves, think about what this would mean a bout the smaller oz gloves from the past is this were true.
Reznick. this wouldn't surprise me..I read an article many years ago by on old trainer[cant recall his name],in which he claimed that it was much harder to score a kayo blow with bare knuckles, than with gloves..He claimed the bare knuckle blows cut and slashed a fighters face more than boxing gloves [of the time of his comment ], but boxing gloves because of the larger punch weapon thrown, was more concussive, and more likely to knock someone out..We are talking about smaller gloves than today, but the rule still holds true...If true, which I believe,it puts a new light on the bare knuckle era....Or the days of Ketchel and Fitz, and McGovern, Gans and that crew...
It's possible. I don't really like the program, though. They concluded that sex before a boxing match enhances performance... without any..... boxing.
Changing the amount of force and changing the kind of damage done by that force are not the same thing though. I would rather be hit by a Nerf football with x amount of force than a lead ball having the same amount. Granted, what I just said may be gibberish, but I've got a buzz on after the knockout of the year. So, whatever.
Bingo, was thinking the same thing. Was alarming sounding, but after thinking about it. How would someone not generate the same power on a bag bareknuckle as opposed to have a glove. That glove still gives some kind of protection.
Well for 1 thing they should be measuring power not force. Power=velocity*Force. The velocity of the transfer of the force is decellerated when the glove depresses so the power is lesser A punchbag isn't a human head either, the human head has weak spots, ie under the chin, under the jaw, the temple. If you hit any of these areas with a bare fist, it transfers the power directly to the weak area, if you do the same with a glove the power is distributed over a larger area doing less Also its the speed of the force Why do you all think Reesto-Collins was such a big deal? Why do you think punchers opt for denser gloves like Reyes, which compress less or compress less over time or even ones they can wear out as the fight progresses? Lets take this example extreme, if you had to choose in a gladitorial death match would you want to fight with giant gloves of celebrity boxing, or a knives attached to your fists?
Because it was broadcast live on TV. The gloves with padding removed caused more pain and perhaps more facial damage. Knives attached, thank you. The othe guy can have the giant gloves, please. But the ideal fist for scoring a KO in boxing is certainly a light glove, and a good deal of hand wraps. In my opinion. You might agree. It's about getting a balance between protection of the fist without excessive padding and weight that might disperse the pointedness of the blow and slow it down. But I guess it depends on the fighter as to how big that glove should be to allow him the right balance. Individuals differ greatly.
Well knives versus giant gloves is the ultimate exreme example of power being tranfered efficiently. The Resto example shows more damage being done by smaller gloves You're right about the hands being protected being as important as transfering the power of the punch, because you have little/no power once your hands are broke. I've boxed with a broken hand and you just can't commit anything to the punch as much as you try. Many say boxers have become more damaged as a healthy fist can keep damaging opponents longer at full force, where as an old timer may pull his punches a little or not throw hooks (they damage the hand more). Sustained beatings are the ones that usually cause comas/death too. The wraps are very important, protecting the hands and recently there has been allot of talk of boxers trying to get away with hardest wraps they can get their hands on. Obviously Margarito and Trinidad but recently Delahoya and Pacquaio being implicated to a lesser extent. And then there's Mayweather using Xylogen to numb out pain to his broken hands. Ofcourse we saw Margarito and Trinidad could still punch without their 'casts'. Ofcourse thats all completely ignoring using the glove as a defensive tool
The better protected your hands are the more power you can put behind your punch and the more punches you can throw. Form follows function. Make Ali fight bareknuckled and he wouldn't fight the same way. He had problems witth his hands even with modern gloves and wraps never mind punching a man in the head with bare knuckles or the horsehair stuffed glove of the early 1900's that seperated from the knuckles as the fight went on. We need to remember that gloves were designed to protect the fighters hands..not his opponents face. As the gloves got better and offered more protection boxing technique and style changed. It didn't necessarily improve but it adapted to the improvements in technology.
Also you'd have to presume that boxers will tend to have better punching form and technique as the whole sport revolves around punching. The boxing stance also lends itself towards increased punching power.