Interesting note about Ali's opponents...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Big Ukrainian, Oct 6, 2015.


  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali beat a guy who won world HW title in 1956 and a guy who became HW champion of the world in 1994. That's 38 years gap, very impressive to say the least
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    well yeah except the circumstances of that statistic make it less unbievable. Archie was ancient when he fought Ali and so was george in 1994. But still I can see the magnitude of it.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's referring to Floyd Patterson, not Archie Moore.
     
  4. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes.

    As for Moore, here's another record.

    Moore 1st fight was in 1935 (7 years before Ali was born)

    Latest fight of Ali opponents - Holmes - fought until 2002.

    that's 67 years.
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It might be a big ask, but has anyone ever calculated the win/loss record totals of Alis opponents?

    Or any other heavyweights for that matter.
     
  6. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    For Ali's opponents it would be 2130 wins, 593 losses, 85 draws.
     
  7. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is there any easy way of calculating this?
     
  8. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    It takes like 10 minutes with boxrec and a calculator. :lol:
     
  9. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He never fought a fighter with a losing record before winning the title.
     
  10. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For you I doubt that very much...
     
  11. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    asser vs wuss ...this should be good! :gayfight
     
  12. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    Who cares about records,its what the persons record is before you fight them,you have guys with 4 losses in a row before ali fought them. Many having lost their previous fight. some turned out to be huge duds with 70% losing records in general,after they fought Ali. I don't really see many real opponents he fought in the 60's,thats common but they were extremely poor quality....I would count maybe 4 decent fighters that had a decent record . there were a few guys with losing records before they fought Ali. you are also claiming ali never fought anyone with a losing record...well how covienent when some guys had 9 losses and 15 wins...yes that is a winning record on paper and a quick fact you better have a second plan besides boxing!

    Archie Moore also had a winning record ,he was also 2 decades past his prime! See statistically on PAPER it looks good but lets not get carried away,with making alis resume legendary strictly on bigging up statistics that don't matter with the time frame. :nono



    biggest 3 wins that are relevant to the time line..... Mildenberger/Foreman/Norton based on those 3 wins that's where he should be judged resume wise.
     
  13. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    well done, lol :p
     
  14. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a rant in reply to a simple observation.
    There again....agendas.
     
  15. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    A factual rant,and heres another point...Ali only fought 6 ranked opponents that were in a spot for the Hw title! Lets also sweep that under the rug with YOUR agenda! :roll: