invincible fighter

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  1. heidegger

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    Do you think there is a fighter who at their prime and the peak of their abilities was invincible?

    Or is there always somone out there to match any package?

    For my money a high flying Roberto Duran at super-light weight (if that division had been contemporaneous with him) is about the closest thing I can imagine to a boxing superman.

    Their was nothing he could not take on and subordinate - slicksters, punchers, slickster-punchers..Roberto hammered them all..
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    Duran was a much better fighter when he started to round his game out. Though very effective in his younger 130 pound days when he was more o a swarming volume puncher and attacker, he wasn't the all around, crafty master he would become in his later LW and earlier WW days.
     
  3. DINAMITA

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    I think that the 1994-1996 Roy Jones Jr at supermiddleweight (who beat Toney) was about as close to invincible as it gets. People deride his chin now, but I don't think anyone could have caught him flush in his 168 peak years. Montell Griffin managed to land a lot of shots on him at lhw in their 1st fight in '97, and Jones handled it fine - I think the chin thing is wildly exaggerated, it only got bad when he got older. Think of the power Jones had up at 175 - so at 168 he was a beast.

    Although Duran is my favourite fighter ever and I think he is the best lightweight ever, and although I doubt many will agree, I think Aaron Pryor could him given him a great fight at 140. I don't think he can be considered invincible there for that reason.
     
  4. stevebhoy87

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    Personally i think pryor would be tailor made for duran styles wise, you need to be at distance and frustrate duran with movement not fight inside, i would give people like whitaker and benitez better chances personally
     
  5. Royal-T-Bag

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    Jones in the mid 90's, Maywether early 2000's, Sweet Pea early 90's/late 80's, Tyson late 80's, Hagler early 80's. Also Jack Johnson circa 1908-1912, Dempsey before Tunney, Joe Louis after the first Schmelling defeat.
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    I'm not saying Pryor would beat him, just that it would be an epic fight and Pryor would most definitely inflict some damage, therefore I can't say Duran would be invincible at 140.
     
  7. DINAMITA

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    The Mayweather early 2000s who lost to Castillo at lightweight? How does being outfought by Castillo make you think he could not be beaten at that weight? So you think that PBF would undoubtedly have beaten peak Duran, Whitaker, and Chavez then? Without a shadow of a doubt?

    This thread is about invincible fighters, not merely excellent ones.
     
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  9. stevebhoy87

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    He is i'm sure on about mayweather at 130 where he was a far better fighter than at 135, the mayweather of corrales fight could IMO beat any 130 fighter ever
     
  10. heidegger

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    I imagine a lot would scoff, but I rate a prime George Foreman as close to unbeatable at heavy.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    You don't think a craftier puncher could get the job done though?

    I think Pryor plays right into Duran's hands.
     
  12. DINAMITA

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    pbf was indeed a sensational fighter there. i would still take arguello to beat him there, but that's all. maybe chavez too.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    Scoff.
     
  14. DINAMITA

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    Griffin got to Jones at lhw. I think RJJ was not quite as fast at lhw than he was at mw and smw. Had he fought Griffin at 168, I doubt Griffin would've got to him as much.

    At 168, I cannot think of a fighter crafty enough to get to Jones. Can you?

    As I've stated, I never said Pryor would beat Duran, I think it would be a thrilling slugfest with damage to both men before Duran would win. But to me an 'invincible' fighter would not get dragged into wars. Like Jones didn't 1994-1996. I know the opposition other than Toney wasn't the best, but I think that RJJ had more gears to go through at 168 if he had been pushed.
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    How exactly? No offence, but I can't see how this makes any sense.