IOC bans Russia from Winter Olympics 2018. Could this carry onto boxing as well?

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  1. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still don't understand how anyone can be stupid enough to suggest a likewise guilty party's existence nullifies nefarious doings by all other entities. I don't believe you are that dumb as ****. You can keep pretending like you are if you like, but it should be said don't take my entertaining the issue as validation, i'm not buying it.

    All you're saying to me is Russia wishes it was as good at it's bull**** as America is. Mmmkay, but it's still ****in' absurd you lot pretend to have never noticed Russian plotting.

    As if the phrase doesn't come from Russia itself. As if that particular criticism isn't domestic and hasn't been for centuries.

    Let all the dead journalists know, tell the jews, and inform the gays; Russia's not to blame for Russian dirty deeds because America is blamed for the destabilization of nations that had been failing for decades. And yer not joking? Like ****.
     
  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Copying and pasting something doesnt take from the fact that there is NO evidence that this was actually state sponsored, for the reasons I mentioned earlier, it was a text book case of corruption. Also these accusations are also politically motivated.

    I can copy and paste too, see look

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-politicization-of-doping-in-sports/5582163

    "(2) McLaren is inconsistent in his accusations against Russian athletes and knows the evidence may be weak. On page 2 he says “Over 1000 Russian athletes …. can be identified as being involved in or benefiting from manipulations to conceal positive doping tests.” On page 5 there is less certainty as he says “over 1000 Russian athletes … appear to have been involved ….” On page 20 the previous certainty is reduced even more as he says “246 athletes can be identified as potentially knowingly participating in manipulation…” (underlining added). On page 18 McLaren acknowledges the evidence may be weak as he says “the IP has not assessed the sufficiency of the evidence to prove an ADRV by any individual athlete.” (For readers unfamiliar with the acronyms, McLaren is the “Independent Person” or “IP” and “ADRV” is anti-doping rule violation)."

    "(3) Sports Federations are now confirming that McLaren’s evidence is weak. The lack of evidence is confirmed in the recent findings by different athletic federations. For example the International Biathlon Union recently evaluated McLaren’s information and cleared 22 of 29 Russians who had been implicated. Investigation of the other 7 continues. Even if all 7 are ultimately found guilty that means that 76% were not and suggests that McLaren’s accusation of 1000 complicit Russian athletes was a huge exaggeration."

    "McLaren accuses Russian officials and institutions without providing evidence. On page 20 he states “The cover up and manipulation of doping control processes involved officials in the Ministry of Sport (“MofS”), CSP , and Federal Security Service (“FSB”) as well as other sport officials and coaches. Also included were both the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (“RUSADA”) and the Moscow Laboratory.” It is widely known that Rodchenkof and the Moscow Laboratory were at the center of doping violations. What is new and requires evidence are the accusations that officials from the Ministry of Sports, Security Services and RUSADA were part of a conspiracy."

    Fact is this ban was politically motivated. No hard evidence that it was state sponsored.
     
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  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    You sound like a pretentious beta dweeb with limited frontal lobe activity. My reply was in retaliation to your " Evil plotting Russians" comment. I know two wrongs dont make a right, but the Yanks aren't exactly saints either.
     
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Either that or they will compete under different flags.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    True.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I have a love and hate relationship with the Olympics.

    The idea is very cool. However, it also encourages many athletes to settle for fat cat state-sponsored lifestyles in many nations where a good apartment and governmental " favors " superseded the chance to go professional and make real money.
     
  7. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: so basically we're back to my initial response? Nothing I said was untrue and nothing you said actually detracts from my claims, yer just emotional? Well duh, why do you think I called you dumb and effeminate straight away?

    Oh and https://www.globalresearch.ca/author/rick-sterling clearly an unbiased source. :lol:
     
  8. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Yer? Yer?? Yer Yer!!

    Western news sources are partisan, politically motivated as well. The New York times is practically the Western version of Russia today :risas3:
     
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  9. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    You guys seriously watch Winter Olympics? People skiing? Shooting and skiing?
    OK Boxing on skiis would be cool but otherwise forget about it.
     
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  10. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    The greatest hockey win of all time - Lake Placcid 1980. When damn near an entire team of college students managed to up set the most stacked Russian international team of all time.
     
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  11. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Back to this, but yer corrupt too doe?

    Yep, yer, as if I'm unaware I'm typing yer.
     
  12. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    What was your previous username?
     
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  13. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marchegiano on all other forums.
     
  14. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You do realize that USA also has systematic doping system dont u ?? It just that they run everything, and they are protected!!
     
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  15. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Yes they are banned, but Putin said Russia won't stop atheletes from participating with a neutral flag. There was a statement yesterday that made the decision official. It is all political and of course every huge country uses substances that are not allowed... It is all about how much do you pay about it.
     
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