Irish Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ardy, Dec 19, 2007.


  1. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sounds 2 me... like he **** the trunks again:lol::good
     
  2. leighton

    leighton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair enough when I heard a co main event I was a bit iffy about the rumour. Saying that if they want big numbers to go it could well be worth there while having both Lee and Dunne on the same card be it in the o2 or in Limerick.
     
  3. BamBam

    BamBam The Brick Fist Mafia Full Member

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    Just heard whats apparently next for Dunne :-( Can't say I'm not disappointed. If its true that is.
    If what I was told was accurate he plans to be at FW and has immediate plans to get himself overmatched in a serious way inside of a couple of fights

    I was told he decided against staying at SBW just recently
     
  4. Daithi

    Daithi Member Full Member

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    Was there word of an opponent at FW or is it too early?
     
  5. D-nunan

    D-nunan Active Member Full Member

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    Andy and Bernard on one card would be huge, massive sell out! hopefully in Limerick cos ill be there and Hopefully with both good ranked opponents!
     
  6. BamBam

    BamBam The Brick Fist Mafia Full Member

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    I heard who its likely to be. And I heard a few names that were floating about. I'm as big a Bernard nuthugger as you'll find but if he fights people of the calibre of the names that I've heard he'll end up getting starched unless moving up to 126 somehow grants him a cast iron jaw.

    I presume they'll end up going for one of the lighter punchers that were mentioned but even still I wouldn't be hugely confident. Fair play to him for thinking big but in this case it sounds like his expectations will exceed his reach.

    The biggest worry for me is that apparently he found it hard to make the decision. Not bad in itself but apparently, as i said in an earlier post, he's not really 100% convinced about the decision.
     
  7. Daithi

    Daithi Member Full Member

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    When you hear guys like Freddie Roach saying you should be fighting at FW to increase your punch resistance then I'd imagine it's very difficult for that not to weigh on you. I hope it's the right decision for him, he's a great lad and he has some balls going up a weight and trying to get straight back up to the top.

    Will going up in weight put more zip into his punches? I thought the biggest problem against poonsawatt was that the thai didnt have any respect for bernards punching power - everyone goes on about Dunne being chinny but if a man can just walk through your offence without fear then being chinny isn't your biggest problem.

    AND... how difficult is it to get the big names from FW to fight Bernard? I mean, is it easy to get top FW 10 fighters to Ireland? I'm guessing it works ou as a good payday for these guys and they'd reckon a SBW former world champion would look good on their records - not sure how it works?!
     
  8. BamBam

    BamBam The Brick Fist Mafia Full Member

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    I don't buy the Freddie Roach stuff. Roach hasn't seen Dunne up close and personal in 6 years. I seriously doubt he has been watching tapes of him. That kind of quote is throwaway and just a general theory on weight divisions. It doesn't nessicarily apply to Bernard.

    He may have a little more on his punches but if being a FW gives you a better chin then all his opponents will be harder to break down. Bernard was never going to knock Poonsawat out. The problem he had was not that Poonsawat was able to walk through his punches. It was that he completely abandoned his gameplan after 3 rounds and tried to scrap it out instead of sticking and moving.

    Dunne is probably a bigger puncher than he is given credit for and a bit less chinny than he's noted as being but he's still got problems in that area.

    Since he came back Voronin had him on ***** street. He was lucky he was fighting at home or he'd probably have been stopped.
    Walstad buzzed him in the 11th or 12th round of that fight.
    Martinez had him buzzed but he didn't really hurt him that badly despite the quickfire loss (given he was fairly alright moments after the fight).
    Faccio had him seriously buzzed in the 6th.
    Cordoba had him down and in trouble but that night was his night and he came through it. That won't happen on a regular basis.
    Poonsawat crushed him and actually ****ing hurt him. It was nasty and maybe even the first time Bernard has really been badly hurt since he first laced up his gloves. He looked like he'd been in for more than 3 rounds. Busted nose, busted ear, busted eye and he required oxygen afterwards. Huge chance of serious mental scars after that

    Thats 5 instances of him being rocked or worse in 15 fights since he came back. So 1 in every 3 fights he's been got to.

    The people who didn't really get to him or that I certainly don't remember getting to him

    Betts - Hughes - Leondraliu - Wilders - Santillan - Pickering - Jailov - Machado - Marchiano

    None of those lads boast a KO ratio above 50% and all are a pretty modest standard when compared to the kind of company he'd be looking at keeping now. I'm all for positive thinking and all but I am certainly going to maintain my realism about what he can stand up to at FW.
     
  9. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think moving up to FW is career suicide for Dunne right now. Only a few months back Rendall Munroe was knocking at his door looking for a scrap. Munroe is tailor made for Dunne at it would have generated a fair bit of interest/money too. Dunne would probably have won it and had a belt back around his waist. The world would have been his oyster once again.

    It sounds like Dunne has lost confidence as a SBW and is hoping FW will change him as a boxer. Which is very wishful thinking imo. He is going to be taking bigger hits at FW and we all know what his chin is like.

    Whatever happens I wish him all the best. The lad deserves a decent pay day after all the entertainment he has given us.
     
  10. D-nunan

    D-nunan Active Member Full Member

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    i think to be fair to bernard dunne poonsawat would ko 90% of featherweights too his chin might not be the best but his boxing skills avoid him being hurt a lot of the time. one or two decent featherweights and he should try to get a fight with cristobal cruz probably easiest title to pick up a FW and isnt cruz promoted by tommy egan so would probably be made easily?
     
  11. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cruz is not promoted by Tommy Egan, he's promoted by Banner promotions who Egan has connections to.

    I can't see Dunne separating his links with Brian Peters to go with Egan however.

    I'm not convinced Walstad really did hurt Dunne late in their fight like some think.
    Faccio on the otherhand certainly did, and all the rest are quite obvious to see.
    Featherweight will be tough and some smart match making will be required.

    If things are done right and Bernard is kept away from the massive punchers in the division and McGurn is given a chance to do something with those extra 4 lbs of leniency in the weight then maybe Bernard can achieve something.

    If they put him in with punchers then it's asking for trouble at Featherweight and the result will be quite a brutal demise to Bernard's career.
     
  12. leighton

    leighton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BamBam was a certain Irish fighter mentioned to you. Martin Lindsey was the name that I was told could be on the cards. Lindsey is fighting in a couple of weeks time so I ruled that out straight away but you never know in boxing how quick things change. I also heard some Mexican name being mentioned in Oscar Larios as he will travel over here for the fight. As I said before it could all be bull**** but interesting to see what he does.
     
  13. D-nunan

    D-nunan Active Member Full Member

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    I dont mean dunne leavin peters. egan isnt gonna mess em around and the fight would prob be made easily.
     
  14. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    supposedly Ciaran Healy is stepping in to fight Fitzy
     
  15. liberties

    liberties Member Full Member

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    hopefully things go right this weekend and i,m sure if dunne do,s move to feather pajo hyland would oblige him with a tough test and that would certainly sell tickets:happy