Irish Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ardy, Dec 19, 2007.


  1. ml

    ml Active Member Full Member

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    Ardy, I got to say that if Duddy Pavlik happens I might be leaning toward rooting for Pavlik. I have followed Duddy his entire career and gone to a lot of his fights, but his team is not giving any credibility to the sport. I understand getting a title shot the easist route possible, but they are carving a route that just disgraces the sport. I actually think his level of competion is decreasing. On the other hand you have Pavlik who has been in the trenches with tough tough contenders and knocked them all out including Taylor. You have to respect that. They are both gentleman, but one seems more legit than the other.
     
  2. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    I wouldn't call it a disgrace as Duddy himself is very genuine but Team Duddy are certainly protecting their investment.I think it started after the Campas fight where Duddy really struggled at times.Turner has improved his defense and his last performance against Eastman was more convincing than the final score suggests.I think with the improvements under Turner Duddy would be ready to step up the competition but it just happens that Pavliks people have offered him a shot right now and it would be foolish to turn it down
     
  3. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    DUDDY FIGHTS MUNOZ AT THE GARDEN

    John "The Derry Destroyer" Duddy will now fight 26 year old Michi "The Mexican Sensation" Munoz at Madison Square Garden on 23rd Feb. Duddy's middleweight contest is part of an already terrific undercard on the Klitscho-Ibrabimov Heavyweight unification title headliner. Munoz comes to the garden with a repectable 20-1[13 TKOs], having only tasted defeat once, at the hands of Joey Gilbert[of Contender fame].If John gets past Monoz, then he is expected to challenge Kelly Pavlik for the middleweight title in June.

    Slan Ardy
     
  4. iceman

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    Ardy - this Munoz guy is a bit of a joke.Check out his record on Boxrec.Duddy will beat him easily.Vanda would have been a better opponent
     
  5. ardy

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    I would perfere to see Duddy take on a bigger name on 23rd Feb, but it looks as if Duddy's team have a no-risk agenda, until he fights Pavlik.
     
  6. ardy

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    I have and Munoz is certainly not the toughest guy Duddy could have fought at this present time, but as you said yourself, Irish Ropes are protecting their investment. But on paper Munoz record does looks respectable.
     
  7. ml

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    Iceman, I got nothing respect for Duddy he has the heart of a lion. It is his team that is the problem. Your right they were actually matching him pretty tough until he fought Campas. I was a the Campas fight and alhtough the fight was close I believe it was his best performace to date. It showed his heart, desire, chin, and ability to come back and win a fight. Since then they have put the breaks on. I know boxing is about putting asses in seats which John does, but fighting Munoz then for the middlewight title is something thats hard to support. I tell you what Andy Lee will not be putting on the breaks this year.
     
  8. ardy

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    Ml,in an ideal world Duddy should be fighting tougher to deserve a crack at the title, but Bob Arum wants Duddy, as he believes John will be an easy defence for Pavlik.
     
  9. iceman

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    Duddy's team know his limitations - Manny wants to rush Lee buy so far so good
     
  10. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Will you be going to the garden. Looks like a fanastic promotion. Lee should be fighting on the undercard also.
     
  11. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    No, but i'll go see Duddy/ Pavlik this summer wherever it takes place
     
  12. ml

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    You guys no what going on with James Moore. Talk about a career that hit the breaks. He started his career late and has an extensive ameteur background, but after he split with Irish ropes he cant get any opponents. All his opponents have not helped him improve as a fighter. He should take a risk and fight someone where he is the underdog because he has the ability to make some noise in his division.
     
  13. ardy

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    I will be there as well.
     
  14. iceman

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    He just won recently against a decent opponent but supposedly got injured in the process - he really needs to step it up asap - time is not on his side
     
  15. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Ml, Moore is now being promoted by Celtic Promotions. They hope next year to push his career forward. Moore was speaking to a few guys I know in a bar shortly after one of his last fights. Moore said he felt ready for anyone in the lightmiddle division.