Irish Boxing

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  1. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Matthew Macklin , Paul McCloskey , Jason McKay , Alo Kelly , Ciáran Healy .

    Macklin is facing Cristophe Karagoz , who recently went the distance(10 rounds) with Amin Asikainen and has a split decision loss to Mahir Oral in Germany .
     
  2. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    yip - I'd have Appleby as the favourite over Lindsay as well.
     
  3. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Slapbangwallop, I have a feeling the fight wont happen. Lindsay has a lot of Canadian and Irish money behind him. Why risk all by going to fight a top prospect in his own back yard.
     
  4. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. It's the only way to the British Featherweight title(and considering Appleby's/Simpsons' intentions probably the European too)

    2.When one prospect beats another they often inherit their hype .

    Appleby still has flaws in him so now is the time to beat him , with the rate he is improving he may become too much for Lindsay in the future .
    A win makes him British title mandatory and a shot against John Simpson(who I think Lindsay could beat)
    Win that and he could get himself a shot against a very average European champion in Servidei .

    It would be a great chance to establish himself in the UK aswell , as although Lindsay would be known in boxing circles around Ireland , Canada and the UK he isn't that well established in any of them yet .

    Plus if there is a time to lose it's when your an 11 fight novice , and if there is a person to lose against at that time it's another top prospect .

    It's a risk for both fighters(especially Lindsay as he's fighting away) but it's a risk that makes sense .
     
  5. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    I wasn,t advocating that Lindsay should pullout of the contest, but only that there is a possibility that he might due to the reasons I stated.Appleby has a busy marauding style, but is wide open defensively. Lindsay is a counter puncher whose best wins have come against boxers with a similar style to Appleby.It would be a tough fight for Martin, but a fight he can win. Although his management might not want to take the risk.

    By the way, great utube post.
     
  6. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cheers big ears...lol im a poet and i dont know it.... no seriously thanks what do you think of unbeaten alo kelly.... he stopped his last two opponents in dublin and belfast
     
  7. Hawks28

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    A few hours after I made that post, I actually caught the Appleby-Odamattey fight on The Fight Network, on the undercard of Anderson-Mcintyre. He did look quite good, but I think I would still have Lindsay as a slight favourite right now. But your right that it could go either way. Would definitely be a good matchup. Hopefully it comes off as planned. Thanks for posting the vids.
     
  8. Big Ears

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    I actually haven't seen anything of him to be honest , I wasn't able to make either of those two bills and his fights weren't covered on tv .

    I keep an eye on the amateur game here but don't follow it in enough detail to be able to tell you much about Kelly........hopefully someone else can help .
     
  9. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Kelly is a former Irish lightheavy amateur champion and Irish amateur international. Alo has came to the pro game late[ I think he's around 30 already], but has had a busy scheule with 6 fights in 6 months, 5 wins and 1 draw.His wins have all been routine,but it's the draw that stands out as that was against Jackie Kallen managed,and fellow prospect Reggie LaCrete. Alo showed his mettle in a closely fought contest that night. Unfortunately the Irish Ropes managed Kelly late entry into the pro ranks will probabley mean he wont reach the very top, but he certainly seems serious about his trade.
     
  10. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thanks ardy and big ears......i read you irish boxing news post.... it would be a shame if martin rogan retired.....i thought he was going to fight scott belshaw.... why wont they just get it on
     
  11. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Hello Fra, it would be a crying shame if big Rogie retired. But he's not getting the opportunities he deserves. The problem is,in the north of Ireland we have not got a major promoter. Alan Wilton of Alio Promotions trys, but for all his efferts, he is still small time.I was hopeing Pat Magee was going to fill the void, but thanks to "our Wayne" [McCullough], Magee near went bankrupt before a punch was ever thrown on one of his promotions.

    There was talk of a Rogan/Belshaw contest last year, but Scott busted his kneecap in a road collision,and has only just regained his fitness.Scott fights in Cork at the end of the month. So the Rogan/Belshaw contest is a possibility, but not for some time, I would assume.
     
  12. Big Ears

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    I presume you are talking about the McCullough v Martinez fight where Martinez(the European 122 lb champ) came in at 125 3/4 and refused to even try and lose more weight .

    I'm sorry for Pat but Martinez seemingly was trying to get one over on Wayne by coming in heavy and presuming Wayne would agree to go ahead with the fight .

    I'm guessing Martinez will make 122 fine when defending his European title against Rendall Munroe in March..........the Spaniard is to blame .

    Magee probably should of had an ok-ish opponent on standbye for a fight of this order too .
     
  13. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    who is going to Limerick to watch lee