Irish Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ardy, Dec 19, 2007.


  1. cormac

    cormac Active Member Full Member

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    If the fight takes place in Belfast Irish Ropes will still need somebody with a BBBC licence (Which Peters has) to run the show in this juristiction. So Id imagine Peters is very much in the picture.
     
  2. dave

    dave Active Member Full Member

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    Andy Lee impressed me again.
     
  3. marty

    marty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah lads, he has all the ability, all he needs is some developing time.:D
     
  4. mickrick1

    mickrick1 Member Full Member

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    Yes Big Ears I was at the previous Limerick show and was surprised when I saw McCloskey up close that he was carrying excess weight. He doesn't appear to be honed the way you would expect a light welter to be.
     
  5. marty

    marty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some fighters dont cut up in a muscular way, the way others would, but if he is carrying extra weight he should consider a move down to lightweight.:thumbsup
     
  6. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A real shot in the dark but does anyone know anything about a good Northern Heavyweight called Tommy (Tom) Toner who boxed in the USA from 1928-30 and in the UK from then until 1932. I think he became attached to the Draperstown ABC and coached at national level but thats where I lost him?
     
  7. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Sorry I can't help you Matt, but how could I purchase a copy your book The Irish Champion.:think
     
  8. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cheers mate....but does peters not have an exclusive contract with rte...irish ropes are not in talks with that station...what happens in that case:good
     
  9. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ardy the reason I rate Haughian higher is because I'm all too familiar with Sinclair's career . He hasn't beaten anyone decent since Pryce(5 years ago) and has looked pretty shot for the past 3 years . Maybe his performance in Italy was good(I haven't seen any media reaction to that fight at all) but it's not a win on the record anyway and in the last 4 years he has gone 4-4 . The 4 wins are over complete journeymen .

    I could never see Haughian losing to Francis Jones and especially not by brutal ko, okay Sinclair was winning the fight but that counts for nothing if you get knocked out .

    I remember watching the Sinclair v Santos fight and while I agree that it came too soon I don't think he ever would of beaten Santos(who is a very good fighter) and he would of only been cannon fodder for the likes of De La Hoya or Trinidad .

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    Look at the speed and reflexes of Sinclair in those videos, it shows how the modern version is nowhere close to even how good he green version of Sinclair was .

    Also Sinclair is nowhere near getting an eliminator at the moment , just last month the BBBofC chose Kevin McIntyre(true champion) as the next mandatory to Kell Brook and also mandated the eliminators of Young Muttley v John O'Donnell and Marc Thompson v Tony Doherty . Terms and conditions on those fights have to be agreed by August 13th and have to take place by the end of November .

    Now considering the winner of each eliminator will probably be matched against each other . Sinclair could be waiting close to a year before he would even get an eliminator himself and at the moment he doesn't deserve to be near one .

    He used to be a very very good fighter but he has done absolutely nothing of late and I hope this doesn't come across as too harsh cause I know you're a big fan of the guy and Neil does seem like a lovely man but the guy seems finished . His speed and reflexes are gone and without that he's just an ineffective chinny banger with poor stamina .

    Stephen Haughian imo would knock him out(while leading on the cards) .


    Outside of those already mandated in eliminators you have Adnan Amar, Craig Watson, Kevin Anderson, Mark Lloyd, Michael Lomax, Matthew Hatton, Francis Jones, Stephen Haughian and probably even Chas Symonds who are closer to getting an eliminator imo .

    If Sinclair is looking to get one he better start getting fights, he better start getting wins, and he better be doing it against some of those guys in that list if he is to stand any chance of getting one .
     
  10. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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  12. ardy

    ardy UP THE IRISH Full Member

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    Hello Big ears, the trade paper Boxing News lavished praise on both Sinclair and Petrucci for an excellent contest, but also stated that Neil should have got the decision[hardly the performance of a shot fighter, although I would agree Neil's best years are most likely behind him].There was an article in The Irish News, a few days after the fight, and it stated that Breen would be pushing for a British title fight[its on 192 of this thread],but I also agree that it could take a while before that transpires, although money talks and if Peters puts enough money on the table, Brook might be persuaded to defend against Neil in Ireland.Young Haughian is a talent, so I won't slag him off to make a point, but he never proved himself a top flight amateur, and he has yet to prove himself as a pro, but time is on his side and he is moving in the right direction.In actual fact Stephen is developing very nicely, and I'm look forward to following the remainder of his career.:hi:
     
  13. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Link to buy the book;
    http://www.trafford.com/07-2554

    Thanks anyway Ardy, it was a looooooooooooong shot!
     
  14. puca

    puca Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haughian has done nothing to deserve the type of talk he afforded by some on this board.I think he is far behind the likes of Andy Murray,Paul Hyland and Martin Lynsdey in both amateur and pro ranks.
    That said he is a novice pro and i wish him well in his development.
     
  15. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah puca...i think big ears...is well of the mark here also:patsch...saying that he normally makes some good points:good