Irish Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ardy, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know lads, we are all ignoring Conlon, the Chinese lad Wong won the Asian gold to-day and Conlon hammered him in his first international, could he top Nevin, Ward, Barnes et al as our best bet?
    PS probably lose to Dalton to-morrow!
     
  2. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point.
    His boxing ability and angles, speed will give most Hw's fits but even one big punch on the arms or gloves will unbalance him. Sheehan on the other hand might surprise some big s'hwts with his speed and boxing fundamentals.
     
  3. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    I was talking about excluding Dempsey ya sausage:good

    They are probably forgetting John Duddy though fair enough:D
     
  4. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whatever about modern era, almost all of Dempsey's 44 fight unbeaten run came using gloves(albeit of varying size and consistency).

    As Mush also pointed out, John Duddy doesn't meet the description of a bareknuckle boxer. So even if it were modern era(which as far as I'm aware they haven't mentioned anyway), Duddy would still hold the record at 26, not Caldwell at 25.
     
  5. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: love that saying i new ye were on about him just was on a wind up

    unless it was boxers based out of ireland there talking about
     
  6. sportofkings

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    well im stumped so:good

    Maybe the mean ''world champions'':lol:
     
  7. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BTW Spike Sullivan went at least 32 fights unbeaten at the turn of the 19/20 century.
     
  8. BK99

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    The fashion of con's victory over mcmonigle says it all! Like conlon, he could be another dark horse for the worlds/olympics. Don't wanna talk too soon after his first SHW fight, but my god what a comprehensive victory!

    Any idea why burnett didn't enter? lets not forget conlon only beat him by a point in the seniors!
     
  9. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dont know about Burnett, he has beaten the European champ in the Youth olympic final so he is really world class too.
     
  10. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    most of caldwells fights were in Jocklandia and Londinium
     
  11. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A quick boxrec puts it at 30 ;), although it must be kept in mind that boxrec wouldn't nearly be as accurate for fighters of that time period. Jack McAuliffe went 40, and I wouldn't be surprised it there were others.

    This really does strike me as Hyland's team just going off their own memory, thinking 'Caldwell's unbeaten run was the longest I remember of an Irish fighter' and then go stating that everywhere as if it was fact. This isn't the first time I've heard them use it either, and if no one calls them on it soon, it'll become a common urban myth.



    Edit: actually to be fair to Hyland's team, it may have been Andrew Murray's camp that started the whole thing and they just presumed that Murray's lot would of checked it out before quoting Caldwell as having the longest unbeaten run for an Irish fighter.
     
  12. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peter Maher went at least 65 unbeaten at one stage but not from his debut.....
     
  13. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Speaking of boxrec, this was i think only the third time time Henry Coyle beat a fighter with a "winning" record, or maybe the forth. I'm tired ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
  14. misticmonk

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    Well done to all on the Coveney prediction, hope ye hit the bookies hard.
     
  15. Big Ears

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    Not surprising considering he had 120 something wins. I was assuming that they meant from the start of a fighters career, so no losses allowed, but there may be a few other fighters to add to the list if we just throw it open to 25 fights unbeaten.

    A quick glance at boxrec reveals it was the 4th time Coyle beat a fighter with a winning record, although another fighter did have an even record. Despite Cotena's 18-5-5 fancy record, Mustafaj Johnson is probably the best win on Coyle's CV.