Irish Boxing

Yeah Andy done well but what a ****ing disgrace Andys face should be splashed on the front pages of most of the morning papers this morning but none of that apart from the Irish Examiner well do to the Examiner for putting up Andy as a front page story. We dont have many world champions but now we do we should celebrate each 1 not just leave it to the back pages.

 

HNN is also managed by an Irish guy.

Could be makeable!

 

HNN is Jermain Taylor's mandatory for the IBF belt. Let Andy fight BJS and let HNN either beat Taylor or take the vacant belt if Taylor is stripped for his transgressions. Suddenly this time next year we have a unification fight

 

Let's face it, it will more than likely be Billy Joe Saunders. The only reason Andy was even in that ring the other night, was cos the crafty Mr.W arren lobbied the WBO quango for it to happen. He had an agenda. That was to get the title into the hands of someone he knew his boy Joe could beat.

Unless Andys two stoppage wins in a row scares him off (punchers are scary!), it will be Saunders.

Perhaps Andy might be able to squeeze in a domestic homegrown defence against Spike or Macklin, but my money says 2015 is Billy Joes year, unfortunately for Andy.

 

He had lots of problems with a fairly crude Eubank Junior.

Lee is a far craftier fighter than Eubank

 

fook off paddy.... where have u been hiding:good

 

took a year out off work travelled around for a year or so (brazil 4 times USA twice and a month in Canada)

Then decided to finally go back to college to get that degree i should have got when I was a youngster!

Was at the Frampton fight with Ardy in September that was a great night but I find the Lee win more satisfying, as frampton had already beaten kiko it just didnt seem as sweet as Lee stopping Korobov.

2 world champs now ... In my opinion this is only the start of the journey Lee has to beat either Taylor, Martinez, Cotto, Golovkin or Kid Chocolate in the next 12 months to move on. I threw Taylor in there because of the history between the two and because he has the IBF

 

So you are confident Lee beats BJS?

 

He would be my favourite, yes.

 

sounds like an eventful year... did u hear my political party will be in government on both sides of the border soon:yep.... lee can beat taylor ..martinez and cotto without much trouble... kid chocolate would be harder and golovkin [ well u know how that will go:scaredas:]:good

 

Lee is a horrible style match-up for Saunders though, if you're not a iron chinned pressure fighter than you aren't the type of fighter Lee struggles with. I initially thought Saunders would beat him but Lee looked improved vs Korobov, who is just as, if not more skillful and harder hitting than Saunders. The Korobov fight wasn't nearly as one sided going into that 6th round as a lot had it either. Lee was having success with his jab and had done a great job neutralizing Korobov's vaunted left hand. I had Andy maybe a round down but nothing that he couldn't come back from, it was still nip and tuck.

Billy Joe is a slick boxer with good timing but he doesn't hit nearly hard enough to discourage Lee, plus in spite of Saunders solid defence Lee is far bigger with a long reach so he can find the target. Saunders might rack some of the earlier rounds but he will eventually slow down and when he does Lee will lower the boom on him with either a right hook or left hand.

Looking forward it though, would be a really good first defense in Ireland, and a winnable fight for our Andy:good

 

I think youve come down with a severe case of "last fight syndrome", BJ. One swallow doesnt make a summer.
Let me say though I totally agree that Andy was only a round down after 5, ( once again the US scoring was way off), and that he was jabbing superbly.

But Andy wasnt landing anything but jabs...nothing. His big left crosses were missing by a mile all night and he wasn throwing any combinations worth talking about.

BJS wont be relying on how hard his punches are, BJ - its how numerous, slick, fast and accurate they are that Andy cant handle.

Also BJS is tough and deceptively strong too - he matched if not bettered the much bigger CEJ in all the clinches.

Joe is tough too - even if he does get nailed by a big one, floored even, I expect him to survive, lose the round ok, but go on to recover and win the fight. I doubt Andy will take him out clean, which is IMO Andys best, if not only chance.

I wouldnt rely on BJS gassing either- the speed he fights at will be equally hard on Andy, if not more so. Andy can be a bit stamina-challenged himself, remember. :bbb

 

Yes.

BJS best win is John Ryder. He struggled at times with the extremely crude Eubank.

BJS is a top domestic level guy, but Lee will make easy work of him.

 

I saw Lee landing with a few left crosses against Korobov, nothing major but it was a cagey fight and Korobov wasn't landing with anything major. As I said its a bad style match-up as much as anything else for Saunders. Lee has decent offensive skills even if his defense leaves much to be desired and Lee is a much bigger one punch hitter than Eubank jr was, all it takes is one, but I think he wont have to rely on one either. If Andy gets his jab going and unleashes that left hand or right hook consistently then he is gong to find the target. Wasn't as if Eubank found him that hard to find after he finally pulled the finger out and let his hands go either was it?

Saunders isn't really that amazing anyways, good yes, world class boxing skills, but he has struggled with the likes of Blackwell, Ryder and Eubank, none of whom had the experience and power of Lee or the offensive ****nal. If the Lee of the Korobov fight shows up then Saunders is getting put down and out. Of course that's no guarantee either though.

But we'll have to see of course, i predict that Lee gets a late stoppage and you'll do even more backtracking then you did on this sunday morning Len, but its a 50-50 fight definitely. I can't wait for another big title fight in Ireland, should be a great night. I just hope Billy Joe is as flippant about Andy's chances as you are to:good

 

Now, now Fra - dont be misleading your old pal like that.
He seems like a nice guy, too.

Word on the street down here in the Banana Republic is that Fianna Fail and Fine Gael will set aside their differences and come together in a desperate attempt to cling to power (de doity bastids).

Your lot missed the boat badly by not capitalising on the water charges issue, and allowed the lefties (the real left) to steal their clothes. Shocking political naievity IMO. Surprised a supposed canny operator like Gerry allowed that to pass him by - all those lovely votes! Oh well...

Taylor and Sergio are finished, Quillin is no better than Andy, but Cotto beats seven kinds of shyte out of "triple L" - the Lanky Limerick Lefty!

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