Irish Boxing

Very frustrating to think back to a year ago when Andy Lee fairly tamely surrendered his title to BJS. BJS has been the invisible man ever since. No fights. For all his guff about being a 'fighting man' ..and how it was the first world title fight between travelers, what has he done to back it up? What about a rematch with Andy for a start?
At least if Andy had held onto his belt - he would have fought by now - fought somebody anyway. Bet Andy wishes he'd made a bit more of an effort. A big push over the last few rounds and he might have held onto that belt. Andy always said he would never lose on points - yet he let the title slip away over those last few rounds fairly tamely IMO. Now we have zero fights from the invisible champ Billy Joe! A double disaster! The defending champ who didnt put up a fight sitting on his couch retired and the man who won the title sitting on his couch doing nothing with the title. If only Andy had fought just a little bit harder...if only....

 

All smiles in Belfast today - but the fight wont be in the champs territory. Thats a bit of a worry.....

 

why?

 

You irish can be guilty of overhyping your fighters....

You bigged up Tommy Mccarthy for years but doesn't look like he''ll even make domestic level as a pro.

You were saying Michael Nevin could be ' irelands greatest ever amateur fighter' then he lost comfortably the next day.

I remember reading about Brendan irvine being something special on here.. then watching him and thinking he was poor. etc etc etc

Just calm down a little ....

 

Yeah we can be like that alright, im fairly sure we are the only country that does that,very unlike the British in that respect,

 

I have to agree with you , certainly about Tommy McCarthy. After all the hype, maybe I was expecting too much from him. I finally got to see him for the first time in his last fight. Bloody hell! He was so bad I turned it off. I literally turned it off - I just couldnt face watching such poor boxing....it was an appalling scuffle altogether....

 

what r u on

 

mccarthy wuz robbed

 

mcgregor to lead conlan into the ring for his first fite

 

Blanchardstown light welter Darragh Foley was brought the distance this morning Down Under.
The big-punching Irishman was defending his WBA Oceania title for the first time, taking on Argentinian Sergio Eduardo Gonzalez.
A clash of southpaws, the mesh of styles lead to a somewhat scrappy fight, and the tricky 38 year old South American was well versed in the dark arts of the sport. Foley pressed the action throughout, and landed the cleaner and more numerous shots in a sometimes ugly affair.
After ten rounds of action Foley was declared the winner, with the scorecards reading 97-94, 98-92, 100-90

 

Stephen Ormond will give himself an early Christmas present in Scotland tonight according to Pascal Collins.
Ormond put Zoltan Szabo revenge top of his Santa list and hounded his team for a rematch, which they eventually granted him on another MGM Scotland show.
There are those in the game who argue strongly against returns against opposition that are perceived lower level but have caused an upset, especially if that surprise win comes via stoppage.
However, respected trainer Collins argues those arguments come from teams with ‘self doubt’ issues, and claims his charge had a similar attitude to Conor McGregor after he lost to Nate Diaz before avenging the defeat and going on to make UFC history.
The Celtic Warrior Gym boss says Ormond quickly became aware of what went wrong as he lost for a third time and not only knows what he has to do to avenge the stoppage reverse, but is 100 percent confident he will get revenge this evening live on Boxnation.
“People that say that [never rematch after a surprise defeat] have self doubt,” Collins told Irish-Boxing.com.
“Stephen isn’t like that. Look at Conor McGregor when he lost, he wanted the rematch straight away. He identified why he lost and knew he could win a rematch. Stephen was the same. He demanded a rematch. People were saying there was no need, but he wanted it before Christmas. He wanted to put that defeat behind him before the year was out.”
“He knows he can win and knows what he has to do to win. He wanted it straight away, that loss doesn’t sit well with him,” he added before reflecting on the surprise defeat.
“It was a shock at first but he was straight back in the gym and he realised what had happened. People don’t realise there is post traumatic stress in boxing. That initial shock and disappointment can be big. Lucky Stephen got down the gym and dealt with it.”
“He wasn’t himself that night. He got caught with a great body shot and you can’t take that away from the lad but Stephen wasn’t his buzzsaw self. He could have came in a bit heavy too and mentality wise may have been off. But look, he has been dying for a rematch and now he has it. He knows he has the beating of this lad.”
Collins, who often argues no one deserves a World title shot more than the talented, hardworking, but often overlooked Clondalkin native, is adamant the October reverse doesn’t represent a decline. The former pro fighter is adamant ‘The Rock’ can still get a World title shot.
Team Ormond would like that to be another rematch, this time with WBO lightweight World champion Terry Flanagan, who Ormond was disqualified against in February 2015. The trainer sees a scenario were that clash can happen, but suggests ‘Turbo’s’ manager has been keen to put the breaks on any potential repeat.
“There are still big fights there for him. He could move toward the Terry Flanagan rematch with a win on Saturday and that would be a world title fight. Steve Wood is Terry’s manager and he doesn’t want the fight, but they are struggling to find opponents for Terry, especially opponents that generate interest. so there is a chance.”
Ormond was disqualified against the now World champ in a WBO title eliminator, but lost his grandmother, whom he was essentially raised by, during fight week, which saw go out of character and use his head illegally.
Some argue the Manchester fighter, who is massively keen on an Anthony Crolla fight, has grown into a great champion, but Collins, while respectful of the fighter, doesn’t rate Flanagan’s opponents and remains confident Ormond has the beating of him.
“Terry’s last few opponents have been poor in my opinion. I thought [Orlando] Cruz was diabolical. Okay Terry can only beat what’s in front of him, but I don’t think you can say he has improved all that much. There are other options too with BT coming on board with Frank Warren. They need fights so they may bring over the other champs! Loads can happen, let’s win here on Saturday first.”

 

genius move by conlon, this is how you should promote yourself, conlon has a mouth too, not a mcgregor mouth but he can create some buzz. Very smart move by team conlon

 

Couldn't agree with that. Conlon should be aiming to be a winner, with a good clean image and a positive role model. Not associating himself with a goonish loser...and a quitter at that.

Is there no one else he could associate with rather than a money grubbing guy who has had about 20 thuggery fights, lost 3 and was recently seen quitting against a nobody called Diaz.???
Conlon showing his immaturity here....and so are you.

 

...yeah...robbed of the chance to pursue a different line of work that he is actually talented at more like. Not boxing though, sorry.

 

as much as i don't like ufc, mcgregor is the biggest earner in combat sports, and is doing amazing things in ufc, to align yourself with a fellow country and biggest earner in combat sports is a very smart move and will bring him huge follow, he doesn't have to talk trash but lets be honest thats what helps these days and brings in fans, maybe the 80 year old grannies might not like it but then again not many 80 year old grannies watch boxing

you are showing a distinct lack of business acumen , how marketing works , how the modern world is and what people like today. do i like mcgregors attitude? no, i don't find him carasmatic, ammusing or even funny, 99% of the time he is cringeworthy, but you have a whole nation of dopes who worship the ground he walks on, thats how you make money