Irish Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ardy, Dec 19, 2007.


  1. liberties

    liberties Member Full Member

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    agree if so we could have 2 brits fighting for irish title :roll:
     
  2. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    only in ireland what?
     
  3. 021mac

    021mac New Member Full Member

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    imo i thought they were spot on , i thought fury was way too clumsy getting caught with overhand rights all night , he could not throw his punches with any pop behind it and for me there is no way he's goin to world honours and i think mick hennesy mis calculated furys progress tbh he looked fooked after the 5th apart from a good 30secs in the 10th
     
  4. marty

    marty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont know if that will happen
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    DO YOU REALLY THINK MCGUIGAN DESERES TO BE IN THE HALL OF FAME FOR BEATIN AND OLD PEDROZA UNINSPIRED LAPORTE AN UNDERACHEIVER BERNARD TAYLOR? COME ON HE WAS A VERY GOOD FIGHTER ,AND PUMPED UP BY THE BIG TV STATIONS, BUT PUTTING HIM IN THE HALL OF FAME OPENED UP THE DOORS FOR ALOT OF GUYS THAT HAVENT BEEN PUT IN YET . SEE DANNY"LITTLE RED"LOPEZ WHO HAS A BETTER RESUME AND IF THEY WOULD HAVE MET UP LOPEZ WOULD HAVE VICIOUSLY KNOCKED OUT THE SHAKY CHIN OF MCGUIGAN:bbb
     
  6. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    i think it was ardy...{was it you ardy?} who put me straight when i tried to argue that dave mcauley was as good if not better...he put up a great argument about the level of mcguigans opponents before he won the world title...i listened and learned.
     
  7. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no use trollin on the irish thread
     
  8. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    i wouldnt mind him trolling if he learned how to turn caps lock off! :lol:
     
  9. nutter

    nutter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Boxing: Milan adventure sees Irish mixing it with the best

    Amateur boxing's powerhouses have noted the emergence of Ireland, says John O'Brien

    By John O'Brien

    Sunday September 13 2009

    Before John Joe Nevin took the ring on Friday afternoon to face the Russian Eduard Abzalimov for a place in the bantamweight final, Ireland's boxers were ranked inside the top 10 of the 144 nations competing at these World Championships. They had achieved that rating on the amount of victories their boxers had managed and, if there was a lingering sense of under-achievement about it, then nothing better reflected the standards of excellence they had set for themselves.
    Actually, they arrived in Milan with a more clear-cut measure of how far they've come in a short space of time. Before they touched down in China last year, Ireland's Olympic boxers were subjected to a rigorous sparring session with their Russian counterparts in spartan surroundings in Vladivostock and it tuned them up perfectly for a successful Games. They held their own against the best-prepared team in world boxing and moved on to Beijing as hopeful and as confident as they could be.
    Ever since Irish boxing's high-performance programme was initiated in 2002, Russia has always been the touchstone. If they were to achieve their improbable target of winning World and Olympic medals, it was reasoned, their fighters would have to stand firm in one of boxing's toughest environments. And none came tougher than Russia. If you could stand up there, they knew, you could stand up anywhere.
    But no more. Ireland's fighters don't attend rigorous training camps in Russia now because since Beijing the offers have dried up. Helping a rival deprive them of medals at major championships is hardly the most attractive proposition for Russia now. And for all the inconvenience, the new-found respect is a source of comfort for Ireland. It tells them they are a front-rank boxing nation now. Favours from rivals cannot be anticipated anymore.
    There is an interesting context with which to view Ireland's performance at these World Championships. On the surface, the singular haul of Nevin's bronze medal looks meagre when compared to the silver and two bronze claimed in Beijing and even more so when you consider they ventured to Milan with a hugely ambitious four-medal target from their complement of 11 boxers. In the end, they never really came close.
    But these championships have seen the strongest nations reassert their dominance and, in that respect, it was always going to be hugely difficult for Ireland to build on their Olympic success. Although they won two gold medals in Beijing, the Russians left disappointed and undertook a radical reassessment of their boxing programme. Cuba, too, underperformed at the Olympics and came to Milan a stronger unit. Between them, they accounted for 12 medallists and were first and second, respectively, in the rankings.
    In the circumstances, there was little shame in Nevin losing out by a single point to Abzalimov. He was Ireland's last man standing at the championships and carried realistic hopes of claiming a gold medal. He is close to becoming the stand-out boxer they imagine is his destiny and displaying a maturity far beyond his years. Nevin, remember, is just 20 years old.
    Nevin first joined the boxing programme as a junior when he was 15. Under the tutelage of Jim Moore, he graduated to the senior ranks at 18. Moore told them he was indisputably one for the future. But that future, they thought, was London 2012. Instead, Nevin astonished them by winning the Irish senior bantamweight title and booking his place for Beijing. He was already years ahead of them.
    Beijing left several enduring images: Paddy Barnes' annoyance after only winning bronze in the 48kg division, Darren Sutherland's delight in claiming bronze in the 69-75kg, Kenny Egan kissing the gold medal after losing his light heavyweight final. None felt so powerful or moving, though, as Nevin's distress after losing to Enkhbatyn Badar-Uugan. Nevin knew he was there ahead of his time but still the tears cascaded down his cheek. He felt he had let his team and himself down. That was the extent of the ambition that burned within.
    Last week confirmed his potential and brought him to world prominence. He revelled in the pressure of his situation and if his defence remains his Achilles heel he has three years to put it right for London and you figure he will.
    There's also the likelihood that with women's boxing now a reality, the men's weights will shift upwards and that will help him too. Not that he alone will carry the torch. Egan's quarter-final defeat to Abdelkader Bouhania will have been seized upon by those who felt he should have turned professional when he had the chance but given the year he has endured, it was asking a lot for Egan to be in top shape
    for these championships. Assuming he manages to retain his national title, Egan will have one more shot at a World Championship and Olympics to achieve his dream of winning a major gold medal. Unlike last week, he'll be primed to deliver.
    The Donegal welterweight William McLaughlin fought three good contests before succumbing to the talented Russian Andrey Zamkovoy in his quarter-final and offered lots of hope for the future. Declan Geraghty lost his last-16 contest to Tugstogt Nyambayar of Mongolia after holding a winning position at half-way and will have a clearer idea now of what it takes to win at this level.
    Naturally, there were disappointments. Darren O'Neill had beaten the Armenian Andranik Hakobyan before and the Kilkenny middleweight would have fancied his chances of progressing to the last eight at least but fell to a disappointing 7-3 defeat. Paddy Barnes' fit of pique after losing to Peter Mungai of Kenya struck a discordant note in a team that has always been aware of boxing's central paradox: that in a violent sport a rigid sense of discipline is of even more critical importance.
    Yet for all that the graph of Irish boxing is still pushing relentlessly upward. All week Gary Keegan, no longer head of their high-performance programme, maintained a keen eye on the boxers' progress on his computer and concluded that the future has never looked as bright. "When you consider how the top nations performed, this was probably our best tournament ever," he said. "We had 11 boxers out there trying their heart out. We have 11 at home pulling their hair our because they weren't there. It's a great position to be in."
    - John O'Brien
     
  10. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    Thanks for that!
     
  11. 021mac

    021mac New Member Full Member

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    lads does any1 know if dunnes upcoming fight is doin well with ticket sales , i just checked there and you cant get 2 50euro tickets together but u can get as many 60 euro 1's as u want , i really hope its a sell out and would be suprised if it wasnt considering what happened in last fight , but from a selfish reason i want some of the same atmosphere that was on offer last time
     
  12. marty

    marty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dunno about the ticket sales but I am in agreement with you if the o2 does not sell out it will be a big disappointment:bart
     
  13. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    exacly :lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  14. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    they said in yesterdays newspaper that tyson fury is STILL going to box on dunne undercard...i'm amazed by that