There has never been a Prize-Fighter at their weight and cant see 1 in the near future, The lowest prize fighter was at light weight,
im not too sure about that; just having a famous promoter doesnt make you any better than you are. isnt the problem with the brothers that one is considerably more talented than the others but they all seem to stick together which while commendable hinders patrick hylands career. if they were really all that good someone would have backed them up. and if they have managed to slip under the radar then they will have to do it the hard way, going to italy france germany, smaller shows in the states and going into other peoples back yards to really earn the way to the top ala marvin hagler. good luck to them all the same
murray is a no way a beter fighter than magee.....no way i think mcloskey should be no1...hes streaks a head of everyone else...i expect next year to be a big year for mccloskey and lindsay
wow...i know a lot of guys from the west[belfast] who where going down next week solely to cheer jamie on
battering people at British and Euro level doesnt trump a world title mate. Magee aint fought for a year so naturally his position is going to slip.
but has dunne not slipped by his last defeat...and surely you must measure a fighters potential in your assessments ...and mccloskey is showing the best potential among all the irish boxers atm
Well Paulie will more than likely have to go to italy to fight for the EBU-EU title, so hopefully that will kick start a good 2010 for him
Thats it in a nutshell. I don't think there are a shed load of world class Irish boxers anyway. Just being one of the better boxers we have does not make someone world class by default. I think pathmanc hit the nail on the head there. They are going to have to do it the hard way. If there was just that bit of magic about them (what used to be called the x-factor before that poxy tv show came along) then they'd have been picked up already. Promoters aren't in the habit of missing out on many top class fighters. Usually someone picks them up along the way. Patrcik is clearly the best of the bunch but he suffers from hitching his wagon to his brothers. Completely understandable from one perspective as they all want to make it or break it together. However, I do think if he went off and did his own thing, even on a 3-5 fight deal basis, he'd get a promoter who was willing to force the pace with him and get him a few bigger name (and more expensive to get in the ring) opponents. As it stands the best chance of a Hyland breakthrough given that they can't afford to import the 'next level' of opponent here would be for them to fight in the places mentioned. But more than that if they could fight as the underdog and pull out a win it would help them move along. Like if Patrick or Paul or Eddie was asked over to Germany/USA to fight some prospect that saw the fight as a stepping stone and they could then manage to pull out a win that seems the most likely way they will reach the next level at the minute
The way i see it, Ireland has 2 WORLD CLASS fighters in Dunne and McCloskey, Macklin is on the verge as well and there's a whole host of potential coming up but right now that's your lot!
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Whats happening to Moylette:-( Moylette bows out at Intermediates Saturday, 28 November 2009 15:14 AIBA World Youth champion Ray Moylette bowed out of the National Intermediate Championships following a quarter-final loss to Paul T Hyland at the National Stadium in Dublin last night. Hyland, of the Immaculata club in Belfast, marched into the last four after earning a superb 13-6 win over the St Anne's Westport clubman. Sean McComb, John Cooley and James Fryers ensured that Belfast won the first three bouts of the evening's quarter-final session at the home of Irish boxing, Fryers beating Ger Matthews in an-all Belfast derby. And Oakleaf's Darren Quigley came from behind to make it four in a row for Ulster with a 4-2 win over Drimnagh's Michael Stephens - an excellent left on the back foot sealing the win in the final round. Meanwhile, Jonathan Carroll came from being 3-1 down to beat Jason Conroy, while Mark O'Hara posted Holy Trinity's second win of the night after outgunning Cork lightweight Declan Quinn. Twintown's Paul Kelly maintained the northern province's domination with a verdict over Patrick Linehan and Dungloe's Paul McShane continued the trend with a dominant 11-2 win over Robert Murphy. Bray's Stephen Coughlan stopped James McDonagh in the third round of their 64kg contest after the Dockers man took a third standing count. However, Toome ace Jamie Kennedy had the last word for Ulster when he beat Dublin's Martin Doran in the last quarter-final of the evening. Emma Agnew and Patricia Roddy emerged victorious from the night's female semi-finals. Agnew beat Mairead Keane 14-7 in the lightweight decider and Bray light middleweight Roddy beat Deirdre Lyons. The Championships resume at 2pm on Saturday followed by another session at 7pm.
Everything is taken into the mix. But as Dunne has won a world title fight this year and McCloskey only won a European title (beating possibly one of the weakest opponants for the title) then it is hard to argue that he is on the same level as Dunne yet.