Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Mar 26, 2021.
Imagine getting kicked in the head
Look at all that mass coming at you....then factor in all the momentum behind it. Ouch
No fighter has an iron chin when it comes to kicks
McCall isn't from this planet
Mark Hunt in his prime was pretty insane:
From 0:40 onwards, he ducks right into one of Cro Cops highkicks that connects clean shin to head and still gets up, crazy stuff.
The guys off the top of my head with iron chins from kickboxing backgrounds were Troy Dorsey and Tex Cobb......of course Vitali....it is a safe bet that if a kickboxer is known for an iron chin in KB he has one
So Bruce Lee could have taken Ali down with kicks?
Hunt got slept by one punch from Melvin Manhoef going backwards.
Everyone knows that already and Vitali is not iron chinned by any stretch. He's a guy that avoids taking punches but when he does you can see it in his facial expressions that it makes him very uncomfortable and he doesn't like it. Credit to him for not letting that be exploited but the right fighter could crack that jaw . His fight with Corrie Sanders he showed a little balls cause Sanders roughed him up a couple times and he looked like an airplane running out of fuel over the ocean towards the end of the Lewis fight, that TKO stoppage actually saved him from probable humiliating and debilitating KO defeat
I remember when Pele was considered a bit of a prospect as a boxer, but had a bit of a china chin.
He LOOKED like a beast, but didn't quite have the ability to back it up
If he landed in the first right spot maybe but I don't think Lee stands a chance against Ali or any actual fighters.
McCall would of got knocked down by Henry Akinwande if it wasn't for the ropes.
Would have bounced up in 1
People don't understand how powerful a flush spinning wheel kick truly is. First of all, it lands with the heel which is one of the hardest bone structures in the human body. You can kick a brick wall with your heel as hard as you can and although the force will reverberate through your body and might hurt your hips a bit, the heel itself won't be damaged. It's much, much more powerful than a roundhouse kick, a front kick or even a side kick to the head.
Also, the amount of centrifugal force on the technique is absolutely insane. You are rotating your entire body a full180 degrees with your leg straight, or at least a slight hook to it, allow that long limb to gather all that momentum and speed, along with insane leverage. If all that wasn't bad enough, like a lot of spinning techniques (elbows, backfists, spinning back kicks, etc), it's very hard to see coming and catches people by surprise. And we all know that shots that you don't see increase the likelihood of knockouts occurring exponentially.
In my opinion, it's the most powerful striking technique in any martial art or combat system. That isn't to say that some random kid in tae kwon do school can kicker harder with it than a Mike Tyson uppercut, of course. It of course depends on the weight, skill, power and athleticism of the individual fighter. But the technique itself has no equal in pure power.
The problem, of course, is that it's a very low percentage shot that's very difficult to land even for someone very skilled. Getting the exact range on it can be very difficult and if you're opponent crowds you, you'll get jammed and likely end up on your back. There's a lot of risk of losing your balance and falling from this technique, obviously.
However, even if it doesn't land clean, it can still be devastating. Junior Dos Santos basically knocked out iron chinned Mark Hunt with it when he missed his mark and the calf ended up skimming the top of the head. But that's how powerful it is. The top/front part of the head is the most protected part of the skull and even getting hit there can hurt someone badly which you don't see very often from a punch (unless you're triple G with that corkscrew punch).
You almost never see someone take a spinning wheel kick to the jaw or temple without being knocked out or dropped while hurt badly. I'm not saying it never happens because I can recall a few times someone withstood it and kept fighting, but it's almost impossible to absorb it if it lands flush.