Iron Mike Tyson vs Terrible Tim Witherspoon, Prime For Prime

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have we established that Witherspoon had a prime? He was very erratic. When was his prime and how long did it last?
     
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  2. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Why does that bother you, what "Tyson fans" say? Show some thick skin, grow up and be a man about this boxing thing, mmm-kay?!

    Spoon had the power and chin to compete with Tyson, just not beat him. I say prime for prime and Spoon lasts as long as Pinklon Thomas did. Tyson TKO6 Witherspoon.


    COMMON OPPONENTS:

    James Tillis
    Tyson UD 10 Tillis.
    Witherspoon TKO 1 Tillis

    Alfonzo Ratliff
    Tyson KO 2 Ratliff
    Witherspoon KO 7 Ratliff

    Larry Holmes
    Tyson KO 4 Holmes
    Witherspoon L UD 15 Holmes

    Pinklon Thomas
    Tyson KO 6 Thomas
    Witherspoon L MD 12 Thomas

    Bonecrusher Smith
    Tyson UD 12 Smith
    Witherspoon UD 12 Smith
    Witherspoon L TKO 1 Smith


    Tony Tubbs
    Tyson KO 2 Tubbs
    Witherspoon W MD 12 Tubbs

    Frank Bruno
    Tyson KO 5 Bruno
    Tyson KO 3 Bruno

    Witherspoon KO 11 Bruno

    Jose Ribalta
    Tyson KO 10 Ribalta
    Witherspoon W MD 10 Ribalta

    Carl Williams
    Tyson KO 1 Williams
    Witherspoon W SD 12 Williams

    Andrew Golota
    Tyson KO 3 Golota (overturned to a no decision)
    Witherspoon L UD 10 Golota


    I'll stop right there. So all you guys get the gist of it.
    Spoon would be a tough opponent for Tyson. One of his toughest under Rooney's tutelage.
     
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  3. William Walker

    William Walker Active Member Full Member

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    Except Spoon was out of shape vs. Bonecrusher who hadn't looked all that impressive, and who Spoon easily beat the year before. If he was fighting Tyson, especially considering how destructive Tyson was, Spoon would have whipped into shape for it.
     
  4. William Walker

    William Walker Active Member Full Member

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    The Tyson fans bother me because they don't want to grow up and admit there's at least another 50 fighters greater than Tyson. Tyson fans usually don't explain anything, they just think he's so invincible that any fighter, no matter who he is (they might not even know who the fighter is) will lose to Tyson.
     
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  5. William Walker

    William Walker Active Member Full Member

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    he generally peaked from '83 to '86, but I know what you mean, some guys are all over. If you want to cover all of Tim's good performances you would have to extend Spoon's peak to the 90s, given he beat Williams and Gonzalez, and gave Mercer a tough fight, but big wins for him were inconsistent in the 90s, so I stick with '83 to '86.
     
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  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tim would rock Mike a few times, but get outpunched and probably more often than not duped defensively. Mike wins a unanimous decision.
     
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Witherspoon was the one man that Tyson’s camp didn’t want anything to do with in the late 80s. That said I’d favor Tyson to win but Tim’s style could give him fits.
     
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  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Don't let it bother you dude. Why let it bother you when every fighter has a fanbase that goes overboard?! Ali has fans who claim he'll never lose, some Foreman fans claim he could break bones with a single jab, I don't even wanna talk about Mayweather fans, some Duran fans think he's the best fighter from Lightweight to Middleweight, and some Tyson fans think he could beat a 42 year old George Foreman (imagine?).
     
  9. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Oh come on Magoo. It's because Spoon took King to court so in return King snubbed Spoon and threw him at the back of the waiting list. Unless you have evidence, and I'm not talking about a Frank Lotierzo article type evidence either...
     
  10. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I agree. Spoon would've taken Tyson seriously. All the other challengers also trained like demons in fear of getting hurt by Tyson but most importantly: beating Mike Tyson meant more than winning a title belt. It would make you famous, you're going down in history and becoming extremely rich.

    Tyson-Spoon would've been a tremendous battle. It ranks up there with Tyson-Holyfield '91 and Tyson-Foreman as tremendous fights that could have been.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Witherspoon due to holding the WBA title was part of the Unification series going on to unify the heavyweight division. Tyson had beat Berbick not long prior to this fight.

    The winner of Witherspoon - Smith II already had a March 7 date against Tyson carved in stone with a $1mil payday to boot. All Witherspoon had to do was beat Smith who he had pretty much shut out over 12 the previous year.

    Witherspoon losing to Smith is why he never got to fight Tyson.

    After losing to Smith Witherspoon certainly never did anything to put himself into contention for a shot at Tyson regardless. Maybe he was in King's bad books and couldn't get any top names in the ring (maybe) but they were mostly lining up and getting bowled over by Tyson regardless.
     
  12. VVMM

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    Very interesting ! A lighter than 220+ lbs Tyson lost only once time( It was just an early disqualification loss to Holy.)
    When Tyson was under 220+ lbs he never was down but he could beat fighters like Ferguson,Tillis,Green,
    Marvis Frazier,Ribalta,Smith ,Thomas,Biggs,Holmes,Tubbs,Spinks,Bruno (two times),Carl Williams,Alex Stewart,
    Ruddock (two times),Seldon.
    Considering we use a prime and maybe a well-trained Tyson who was durable,quick and sharp he would beat
    Witherspoon easily.
    Lot of boxing fans respect Witherspoon because he looked good against Holmes but Williams and Spinks
    looked good also and Tyson destroyed them in the first round.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’m aware of all that but it was talked about among various circles in the late 80s and early 90s that team Tyson didn’t want Witherspoon.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Haven't heard much of that but fair enough Goo.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    Tyson should win this. I don't think Witherspoon has the right style to beat Tyson.
     
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