is 3 miles in 18mins a good target for a beginner's cardio?

Not sure what a time trial in a three mile run has to do with boxing.......


But yeah, if you can do three miles in 18 minutes you are borderline gifted, and should probably focus on running instead, especially if you can get there after "just a few weeks."

As to the fella that's just starting out, and is currently doing the three in 27 minutes......well, I'm not sure you can get there from here. Nothing to be ashamed of, and you'll improve for sure, but most likely you won't hit 18 minutes over that distance. It's too big a jump.

6-minute pace would win most young-uns an age group award in open-class 5k races, unless they run into the high school track and cross-country studs in the same race. I've seen some of those cats run 5k in 15:20-15:30, but they have real gifts.

 

Exactly.

I don't know why people on this forum always gotta try and bring people down, when they can't do half the bull**** they talk about.

 

Eh, you know how it goes........it's an internet forum based on a violent sport, and the testosterone runs high. It's a safe place to act tough. Nothing new under the sun.

 

Giving you a time to run 3 miles to be taken serious as wanting to train boxing is ****ing stupid whether it's possible or not. Obviously training cardio and getting a decent level of fitness are crucial to boxing, but saying you have to get to a certain level before you even start is just idiotic and pointless. Running a set distance in a set time means absolutely nothing to boxing, it means you can run a set distance in a set time...

 

what pace on a treadmill that has the speed in km would this be just out of interest?

And yeah ive read 2mile in 12min is a good target but 3mile in 18 sounds too hard unless your a serious runner

 

Don't bother with the treadmill unless its dangerous to run outside, it's nothing like running outside.

 

i have to at min its grass or treadmill had ankle ligaments reconstructed earlier in the year,darent run on the roads yet. it still aches the day after on grass,also theres snow everywhere i live at the min :good

 

You in the UK? Think it's about -2°C today here in Birmingham, nice bit of snow.

 

If your reaching 18 minute 5K within ''a few weeks'' of training then forget about Boxing and take up running. It's a realistic goal I'd say if you have atleast some sort of talent for running (not much but some) but I really wouldn't worry about it in terms of boxing conditioning.

I would of been fairly confident of winning that 5K parkrun in Middlesborough yesterday. I'd imagine though if I was to go to a ''conditioning'' boxing session and tried matching the regulars in the number of press ups they do in between 3 minute rounds on the bag I'd be throwing up.

 

Just because you guys can't do it you assume everyone is not telling the truth. To put it in perspective I have a friend who finished 86th in a local half marathon. He is not a member of a running club and is not gifted (in fact he was once overweight) and ran it at 7.2 minutes a mile pace and yet you think running 6 mile a minute pace for 3 miles is unrealistic!!!!

 

Well its a 6 minute average right?

Over that distance its not much to maintain.

I did a half marathon in 1.36, which is roughly a 7 minute mile average, and thats over 13 miles plus.

Used to do a 2.5ish run over cross country quite regularly and could do that in 16.5 minutes.

Its genuinely not that hard, might take you a week or two to get there, but its nothing spectacular. If you are a decent runner in good shape then you will get there, and plateau out around that kind of time. Its pretty fast, but very doable, particularly on the road.

 

For the average guy to start running and get to 6 minute mile pace in a few weeks, that is unrealistic. Maybe it's possible for the naturally gifted runners out there, but the average guy wouldn't get to that level in a few weeks. Nobody is saying it's an impossible thing to do, of course it's possible, but in that timeframe...

 

There's a big difference between mid 7 minute mile pace and hitting 6 minutes exactly for three consecutive miles. I've been running a little over two years, did a hilly 10 miler last year in just shy of 67 minutes, comfortably below 7 minute mile pace let alone 7.2. At the same time it was still a struggle to break 18 on a 5K if the course weren't fast/flat.

Ofcourse I appreciate your mate ran a half and no doubt it was a hilly ******* but any runner will tell you just cos your comfortable at one pace don't assume you can suddenly up that pace and hold out for any sustained amount of time.

A week before my first 800m (done cos no one else would do it) I did a session of 8x700m in a average of around 2 minutes 30 secs with 50 secs recovery. Two laps of the track, easy I thought I'm a fit *******. Went through the bell in 58 and by 500m everyone else was 30m ahead and I finished last by nearly 100m. Embarrasing as ****.


Anyway the point is alot of people are well capable of running mid seven minute miles all day long. Ask them to go to the front at the start of a local 5K and stick with the guys running just below 18 and just before mile 2 they'll be wishing to be anywhere else but here as another half a dozen runners begin to overtake them.

 

The amount of people on this training forum who have absolutely no idea is absolutely unreal.

Here's a challenge for anyone who thinks they can do it. Get a mate to film you dong it on a treadmill at 1.5% incline and post it here.

Any takers?

Yeah, I would have been amongst the front-runners yesterday but a winning time that slow is very unusual. It wouldn't surprise me if that's one of the slowest winning times ever. It;s usually about 16.30.

 

Yes, exactly. Getting from 7 minute miles to 6 ain't just a matter of going running a few times a week.