is 3 miles in 18mins a good target for a beginner's cardio?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by CrimsonBeast, Nov 27, 2010.


  1. charlstonbigspu

    charlstonbigspu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    can i ask for someone who isnt best with speed(myself),what would be a good time for me to acheive on this.

    regardless of what patch says im pretty sure i could never do this in 18 mins
     
  2. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe I missed it in here, so apologies if you already gave us the stats, but tell us about yourself.........

    How old are you?

    How much do you run currently (in other words, how many miles per week, and what do those workouts consist of? All hard runs, some slow ones)?

    What are your current times for given distances (whatever they might be)?

    I'll help if I can.
     
  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    damn, is the doctor ok with you running at all, especially running hard?

    Maybe you can stick to biking until its 100%. When you say it hurts the next day is it just normal muscle soreness or its your ankles hurting? I wouldnt mess with that until you can run without them hurting
     
  4. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    During the day while a member of the 100 mile club, my time for the
    five mile cross-country was about 30 minutes, and for the mile race
    at the high school track meet in 1965 my time was just under 5 minutes.
    However, for amateur boxing, for three 3-minute rounds
    running three of five mile runs are not necessary the best form
    of running for boxing training. My rule of thumb is you train to be
    able to go the distance in a three rounder not a 12 round pro title fight.

    In the running, it should be 3-3minute time slots at various
    speeds - however between the three minute runs you do not
    sit on a stool on the track but do casual walking and deep breathing.

    one can do the three to five mile cross country runs for endurance
    but you could live without it if you can go the distance in the ring
    at a range of speeds and if you learn to control the movement
    there never will be a problem with distance.:happy
     
  5. Running 3 miles in 18 minutes is more about running skill than boxing cardio. Ofcourse some of us like to run aswell and thats a very good running time, you won't be winning races with it but 18 minutes is not a time just anyone gets.

    I have to disagree with patch, 18 minutes is not achievable by just anyone, at the very least its not a realistic goal by a beginner.
     
  6. patch1983

    patch1983 Member Full Member

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    The main reason its not a realistic target for most is because the majority of people don't train that hard. I know a lot of people who run regulary who will never achieve that sort of time but it has nothing to do with genetic limits and everything to do with their lifestyle and training.

    When I was 17 all I did was go to the pub and eat junk food. I remember going for a 30 minute run and being sore for days as I was so unfit. If someone like me who has never a big runner can do it how can you lot say its not a realistic target?

    There are low standars on this forum
     
  7. patch1983

    patch1983 Member Full Member

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    With that attitude I agree with you!
     
  8. CrimsonBeast

    CrimsonBeast Active Member Full Member

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    I'm very serious about this and I want take my absolute best shot at boxing. If I can't hang thats OK (I'll go to mma instead :yep) but, I want to know I tried and prepared properly. Some of you are suggesting its not really ideal for an amateur since fights are fewer rounds so what is the ideal cardio target for those rounds?
     
  9. patch1983

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    I think you are over thinking it. Being a great runner does not mean you are in great fight shape. Most of your conditioning will be done in the gym (pads, bag work etc).
     
  10. CrimsonBeast

    CrimsonBeast Active Member Full Member

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    Haha yea I tend to do that but, its because I feel more comfortable having a goal.
     
  11. patch1983

    patch1983 Member Full Member

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    I just re read the first post. Are you going to be going to a gym or just training with a friend?
     
  12. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do you bring yourself up as an example against genetics? You were unfit and you got fitter, what's that got to do with genetics? Some people no matter what they do can't do certain things, everybody is made up differently. Sitting around doing nothing much actually helps you maintain fast twitch fibres. The average person who doesn't exercise would likely blitz a marathon runner in a sprint. 3miles in 18 minutes is going to require pretty good speed and endurance. If someone has a certain genetic makeup and has exercised for a long period of time focusing on mainly anaerobic or long distance aerobic activity it may not be an attainable goal.
     
  13. patch1983

    patch1983 Member Full Member

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    I can understand people using genetics as an excuse for elite times but 3 miles in 18 minutes is not elite. If people train correctly it is a resonable target. The problem is most people don't train correctly or hard enough.

    I use me as an example as I have never found running easy. Back at school when I used play football (soocer) everynight my friends used to take the **** out of me for being slow. I was rubbish at running in PE at school. I had to train hard to be able to run that that time. Its just a pathetic excuse to suggest the reason I can do it I could do it and some others can't is down to genetics.
     
  14. CrimsonBeast

    CrimsonBeast Active Member Full Member

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    gym but, my friend will help me with his connections , the cost and other stuff i guess. I'm sure I could find a gym on my own but, i'd prefer to go his route since he knows more than me at the moment.
     
  15. patch1983

    patch1983 Member Full Member

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    I would not worry about running times at the moment and get in a gym as soon as you can.